My Dad is having a running battle with squirrels in his barn, and I'm thinking it's time I snagged him an airgun to help him with the problem. I was thinking the 1377/1322 might be a good solution, but I've never played with a .22 cal airgun before, so I'm having a hard time choosing between the flatter .177, vs the extra oomph of the .22. Assuming an untuned gun, which is going to be more user friendly?
1322 or 1377 for pest control?
- Thread starter mpwolf
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1377 is factory neutered for canadian market, so it doesn't really have enough power for anything other than a small bird under 10 yards. You can tune it back up but then technically it'll then be a restricted firearm and subjected to all restrictions that comes with it.
I just got my first .22 pellet pistol (2240) and it's pretty cool and definitely packs a punch. I killed a snowshoe hare with it last week at about 30 feet (10 meters). The pointed Crosman pellet severed its spine, traveled through the left lung and exited the front of its chest. A follow-up shot penetrated the back of its skull and exited under the chin. So a .22 pellet at 460fps definitely has the power to take care of any squirrel problem your dad may have. I've switched to Crosman Destroyers and I suggest you do too (or any other hollow-point type pellet) to prevent over penetration.
I've had a 1377 for 27 years, and have shot a 1322 lots of times. At "in barn" distances, I think the .22 would be a better choice on squirrels but in either case (.177 or .22) shot placement will be key with a modestly-powered air gun. If he were hunting them as game/table fair, I'd say get the 1377...a steel receiver upgrade, an inexpensive scope, and go for head shots. If just whacking them is the goal, I'd trust the extra punch of the .22 more. In either case, get a cheap stock for it...they cost next to nothing, weigh next to nothing...but boy to they steady the aim. takes 2 minutes to put on if you take your time. http://www.crosman.com/gear/custom/1399
CO2 is cheap enough. I'd like to get the pump version of the gun but I'm scared it won't fit in my holster and that the balance in hand will be off. I carry my 2240 as a back-up/coup-du-grâce piece while hunting.
antiqueguy
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forget hollow points there is no point to them in sub 500fps air guns ive killed squirrels with my 1377 a heart/lung shot is best i used crosman pointed pellets(it says hunting pellets on the box too)
its something i carry when bow hunting in a holster it works but you got to make sure your shot is good
its something i carry when bow hunting in a holster it works but you got to make sure your shot is good
antiqueguy
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- windsor ontario
i like a .410 with #12 shot or a .22 cb long or short
.410 with #12 in barn type range will kill a squirrel this works on pigeon (so does sand at really close range)
.410 with #12 in barn type range will kill a squirrel this works on pigeon (so does sand at really close range)
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- Ottawa Ontario
I own both the Crosman 1377 and 2240...in my opinion the 2240 is the best of the two for pest control. It packs a good wallop and will kill stop any squirrel dead in its tracks regardless of pellet placement. The 1377 will knock it down,...but...
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If you have a PAL, a .22 long (subsonic, 710 fps) with a 29 grain bullet is just the ticket for any squirrel and no louder than a standard pellet rifle.
antiqueguy
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those are cb longs and they have a little more energy then a 7gr pellet at 500fps they tend to break windows on equipment (let say i was not allowed to use the cooey for while)
a .410 with #12 shot(if you dont careabout a little shot damage to the barn #9,#8,#7 1/2 could) be used or a .177 is always a better option
antiqueguy
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and still about the same FPE
1322 hits twice as hard as the 1377 and will reliably anchor squirrels, the 1377 will kill a squirrel but not reliably.
The ones I have chronographed ran about 425 FPS stock and 495 FPS with a flat top piston installed.
The down side of the 1322 is the time, noise and motion it takes for a follow up shot - this is where the CO2 powered 2240 is good if you don't mind stocking cartridges and leaving the pistol charged.
Dan
The ones I have chronographed ran about 425 FPS stock and 495 FPS with a flat top piston installed.
The down side of the 1322 is the time, noise and motion it takes for a follow up shot - this is where the CO2 powered 2240 is good if you don't mind stocking cartridges and leaving the pistol charged.
Dan
I have a 2240 and I have kept it perpetually charged since I brought it home from the store. No leaks and no loss of power from what I can tell. I used to play paintball too and would leave all my paintball guns charged and I never had any problems with them either. With today's manufacturing processes, I think it's as harmless to keep an airgun charged as it is to leave a magazine charged. *cue the fight* 
If your serious about pesting then get a rifle, pistols are generally too inaccurate especially for an older person whose eyesight isn't what it used to be.
I had read a chart that stated CB longs were 32fpe, a 40grn bullet traveling 710fps has 44.78fpe too much for in the barn.
I had read a chart that stated CB longs were 32fpe, a 40grn bullet traveling 710fps has 44.78fpe too much for in the barn.
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- Steel Town and The Peg
Just to requote myself, you will note I make the following points:
"Long"
"710 fps"
"29 grain"
These are very quiet (especially through a bull barrel), and certainly no more powerful than a standard medium-high powered pellet rifle. Yes, they are made by CCI, and quite frankly, are ideal for small critter control. Now, inside a barn may mean a hole somewhere, but in fairness, find a nice perch and aim down. Cheers.
2240 can not be compared to the 1377, they shoot different pellets duh!
2240 or 1322? I'd go with the 2240. You have to really love pumping up your gun 10 times for every shot to want to use a 1322 for pest control.
With the 2240 you fire one pellet, kill that pest, load another pellet, kill that pest.
With the 1322 to get full fps worthy of killing the pest you have to: pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, shoot, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, shoot, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump...
A sub-500fps pellet gun does not have the same legal and storage requirements that a .22 rimfire does and is less likely to damage anything in the barn that you don't want damaged; just watch out for windows.
2240 or 1322? I'd go with the 2240. You have to really love pumping up your gun 10 times for every shot to want to use a 1322 for pest control.
With the 2240 you fire one pellet, kill that pest, load another pellet, kill that pest.
With the 1322 to get full fps worthy of killing the pest you have to: pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, shoot, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, shoot, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump...
A sub-500fps pellet gun does not have the same legal and storage requirements that a .22 rimfire does and is less likely to damage anything in the barn that you don't want damaged; just watch out for windows.
