14" barrel for turkeys?

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While sitting in my turkey blind today, in the pouring rain, I was thinking about how nice and handy my Norinco 14" 870-clone would be in the cramped quarters. If I were to have the barrel threaded for chokes, would it make a practical hunting gun? How much would I lose ballistically with such a short barrel?

I can't believe this is the first thread on this idea, but I couldn't find another one.

John
 
Yes!
Chokes make all difference.
You loose about 1000fps vs an 18'bbl with slugs.
But you gain velocity with buckshot.
 
Interesting...That is a huge loss. I was wondering about the 'punch' factor as I am not toting a 14inch Fabarm over my 20inch Mossberg 590a1 while fishing. It is for bear defense I was honestly wondering about the balistics/effectivness etc.

Man, I wish I could hunt turkey!

I am going to have to post a new Bear Defense thread...hahaha
 
sixty9santa said:
Yes!
Chokes make all difference.
You loose about 1000fps vs an 18'bbl with slugs.
But you gain velocity with buckshot.
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Have you chronyed this 1000 fps loss? Or have you added an extra zero.

There is NO way a 4" difference in barrel length makes a thousand feet per second difference.
 
I just installed screw in chokes for dieselsot on his 14" Norc just in time for the season. The best way to find out what you've got is to pattern the gun. If its not tight enough do the screw in chokes and you have more options. A shotgun burns out of powder at approx. the 18" mark give or take, with a 14" barrel I don't believe the difference would be enough to not down a turkey provided you had good group size.
Dave
 
Please help me understand this 14" barrel fetish a lot of you guy's have. Not puting it down . Just wondering why?
 
Win/64 said:
Please help me understand this 14" barrel fetish a lot of you guy's have. Not puting it down . Just wondering why?
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Three reasons. The first is compactness/portability. If you have to carry a gun in the brush it's easier to carry slung on your shoulder compared to an 18.5 or 20" gun. Mine is set up primarily as a slug gun and has rifle sights. It's a jandy little farm gun that stows easily in a closet.

Second is the "forbidden fruit" aspect. Our American friends can't have one as easily as us.

Third is that it is great fun turning heads on the skeet range. Federal Gold Medal shells under the lights is a sight to see. :dancingbanana:
 
I understand the compact and defensive aspect of it. But as far as using it on game birds? Must have a very strange swing to it.
 
Ooops, I added an extra zero.
Sorry, didn't notice as I was typing:redface:
Actually, iirc, there is about a 300fps difference.


Another great way to make an ass of myself:bangHead:
 
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OMG:eek: you guys are still using the 14" FLAGPOLES.

I'm thinking about my 12.5" barrel...with a full choke it shoots a very good pattern at 25 yards.....gonna buy an extra full choke and see what I can get outta it.:)
 
Win/64 said:
I understand the compact and defensive aspect of it. But as far as using it on game birds? Must have a very strange swing to it.
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Turkey shooting is more like slug shooting and there isn't a lot of gun movement involved. I wouldn't use a 14" gun to wingshoot because the swing is very strange and I have better guns for that purpose.
 
Win/64 said:
I understand the compact and defensive aspect of it. But as far as using it on game birds? Must have a very strange swing to it.
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Who needs swing when you have a red dot reflex sight? :p

Also I'm not sure about bird shot, but with buckshot you get more velocity out of a short barrel vs a longer barrel.
 
Calum said:
Also I'm not sure about bird shot, but with buckshot you get more velocity out of a short barrel vs a longer barrel.
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You will have to explain that one to me.
 
CyberK said:
Claybuster............

What was involved in threading the Norc 14" barrel for chokes? Tools etc. Was it a big job?
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Can't help you there. My 14" is a Remington with a fixed mod choke.
 
Win/64 said:
You will have to explain that one to me.
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I was hoping you wouldn't ask as it will be allot of typing on my part...:D

So to save time get a copy of Shotgun Digest (3rd edition) Edited by Jack Lewis, and on page 74 there is an article titled "the Long and short of it".

In this article they cut down a a Marlin 55 bolt action shotgun barrel a few inches at a time starting from 36" down to 12", and measure velocities of different shells (about 464 shells in total) through a chrony.

It's an interesting read.

I can type some out numbers listed later if you want. :)
 
We'll see if mine does it this year. I have a 12.5 inch barrel on my gun and i hope to take one. I have taken a deer with the same style of gun so i'm hoping for the best. I'll let you guys know in the future.
 
Calum said:
I was hoping you wouldn't ask as it will be allot of typing on my part...:D

So to save time get a copy of Shotgun Digest (3rd edition) Edited by Jack Lewis, and on page 74 there is an article titled "the Long and short of it".

In this article they cut down a a Marlin 55 bolt action shotgun barrel a few inches at a time starting from 36" down to 12", and measure velocities of different shells (about 464 shells in total) through a chrony.

It's an interesting read.

I can type some out numbers listed later if you want. :)
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I allways thought if it doesn't burn all the powder it doesn't reach the maximum velocity.
 
I took a 5x5 buck with my 14" on a Remington. It took 3 shots because he bolted after the first shot. But down he went. I was about 50 feet away when I took the first shot. The wind was right and he walked right up to me.:D
 
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