16 gauge what is old is new
- Thread starter warzaw
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Sure is and a few guys here also
I have about a dozenand a 1/2 of them or more still as you know
with a 16ga wingmaster being my very first new shotgun in 1965Nothing expensive however other than my grandfathers model 21 in 16ga
I know someone here has a new generation 1100 LOL in 16ga
Cheers
Trying to think still have
model 12
model 21
ithaca 37
bps upland
A5 sweet 16
cooey 84 and 840
rem 1100 three?? one is a second generation
rem wingmasters five or six and one is a second generation
rem express
model 31
Oh yes how can I forget the latest a mossy 500
Think that is them all
Loaders mec jr, sizemaster and 9000g in 16ga , 1000's of vintage hulls and wads even AA's of both
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Sure is and a few guys here also
I have about a dozenand a 1/2 of them or more still as you know
Nothing expensive however other than my grandfathers model 21 in 16ga
I know someone here has a new generation 1100 LOL in 16ga
Cheers
Trying to think still have
model 12
model 21
ithaca 37
bps upland
cooey 84 and 840
rem 1100 three?? one is a second generation
rem wingmasters five or six and one is a second generation
rem express
model 31
Oh yes how can I forget the latest a mossy 500
Think that is them all
Loaders mec jr, sizemaster and 9000g in 16ga
No over under?
Nope. I missed that O/U browning white lighting Clay had when he first got them in a few years ago and kicked myself for a while but am now over it LOL
Only gauge I love more than the 16ga is the 28ga
Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Two 16 gauage guns both side by sides, a 409 Beretta and an AYA. Best if you reload at least around here.
I have a few. Not as many as I once had but that has more to do with me upgrading my collection than disaffection with the gauge. I have nearly 8 flats of 16 gauge 2 1/2" hunting loads from Gamebore and RST so I better not lose interest. Haha!
Right now I have a Citori White Lightning in 16 and a Ferlach made SxS 16 circa 1925 that I picked up a couple months ago. Beautiful gun. I sold my last remaining Pieper 16 around the same time to an enthusiastic buyer while prices for Fox and Parker 16's are hitting stupid numbers in the US so I don't think there is some kind of tail-off in interest for 16s. It's lack of use in the clays games limits its appeal to just hunting, but it has had a loyal following as long as I've been shooting. A M12 16 was the first gun I bought over 40 years ago.
Right now I have a Citori White Lightning in 16 and a Ferlach made SxS 16 circa 1925 that I picked up a couple months ago. Beautiful gun. I sold my last remaining Pieper 16 around the same time to an enthusiastic buyer while prices for Fox and Parker 16's are hitting stupid numbers in the US so I don't think there is some kind of tail-off in interest for 16s. It's lack of use in the clays games limits its appeal to just hunting, but it has had a loyal following as long as I've been shooting. A M12 16 was the first gun I bought over 40 years ago.
I have a couple 16g SxS's. An early 1920's F.W. Heym that I was able to pry away from canvasback. It went through a professional restoration while owed by canvasback. I also have a 1929 Geco that is in very nice condition. I to am stocked up on 16g RST and Gamebore so I have no plans to abandon 16g.
- Location
- West Central Alberta
I have a 117 year old Remington model 1900 in 16 gauge, yup according to the serial number it was made in 1905.
Still shoots good too.
Still shoots good too.
- Location
- Saskatchewan
I like 16 ga. guns very much.
My main upland gun is a Citori White Lightning.
I also shoot a Merkel 211E O/U 16x16 - 2 3/4" and also its 251E configuration, (2nd Barrel set 16 / 7x57R).
And an unusual 100+ yr. old Italian guild gun that is a very light and lively SxS, with hammers, made with German fluid steel barrels. It is a two barrel set, 28" and 32" . And a Gaspar Arizaga SxS non-ejector Sidelock, DT, POW grip, 28" barrels.
And a Krieghoff Trumpf Dural Drilling, 16x16/7x57R.
Recently sold a Heym combo gun 16/.222 Rem.
I hunt with all of them.
My main upland gun is a Citori White Lightning.
I also shoot a Merkel 211E O/U 16x16 - 2 3/4" and also its 251E configuration, (2nd Barrel set 16 / 7x57R).
And an unusual 100+ yr. old Italian guild gun that is a very light and lively SxS, with hammers, made with German fluid steel barrels. It is a two barrel set, 28" and 32" . And a Gaspar Arizaga SxS non-ejector Sidelock, DT, POW grip, 28" barrels.
And a Krieghoff Trumpf Dural Drilling, 16x16/7x57R.
Recently sold a Heym combo gun 16/.222 Rem.
I hunt with all of them.
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Acouple of 16 doubles. Belgium made in the 20’s and a double cap lock made about 1875. Just something about the 16 ga I like.
madtrapper143
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Steep Rock Lake NWO
But you can't find cartridges for the 16 bore, it isn't available in 3" magnum large steel loads, camo models are too hard to find.... Just kidding I own several and love them all. Latest addition is a nice 1948 Ithaca model 37. Overall favorite is a very clean Remington Sportsman 58 with 28" vent rib barrel choke Modified. Oh yeah I have a Mossberg 500B (like 3Macs) with a factory 24" Slugster barrel. MIGHT be the only one in the country. I may have an addiction.......
Darryl
Darryl
I’m down to just 4. The first two guns I ever owned were (are) 16 gauge - the first, a Cooey 840; the second I inherited, a Winchester 1897. I still have both.
I bought several more over the years, including a Webley and Scott, a Stanford and Laxton, and a Marlin pump that have all gone to new homes.
The other two that remain in the collection are a Husqvarna hammer gun and a Baikal hammer gun.
I have a lifetime supply of both standard pressure and low pressure shells to keep them barking at birds.
I bought several more over the years, including a Webley and Scott, a Stanford and Laxton, and a Marlin pump that have all gone to new homes.
The other two that remain in the collection are a Husqvarna hammer gun and a Baikal hammer gun.
I have a lifetime supply of both standard pressure and low pressure shells to keep them barking at birds.
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Two M12's...'34 and '58, and two AYA#2 Sidelock RB game guns with double triggers. Have owned a beautiful 16 ga Browing Citori Gran Lightning (a bit too heavy for my tastes for hunting) plus a couple more M12's (another '58 with soldi rib which made it heavy and a very early one with a 2-9/16" chamber which was a pain) and an Ugartechea boxlock SxS (decent). I like 'em! Reload for them as target loads are hard to come by.
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winchester12
CGN Regular
- Location
- Chatham ontario
I love 16 GA guns and reload shells. I like to be different out on the skeet field.I've had lots of 16's but my favorite is my winchester M12 with factory MOD choke. I also have a remington model 58 semi,Savage 720 semi and a Ithaca Model 37 in 16ga.I load up a nice 3/4OZ shell for skeet.
This subject got me thinking some more.
There is almost nothing a 12 can do that a 16 can’t do; there is almost nothing a 16 can do that a 20 can’t do just as well – you get the picture. It makes you wonder why different gauges still exist or why they were developed in the first place. Barrel sizes were determined long before fluid steel barrels, choke boring, compressible wads etc., came along. It wasn’t that long ago that 14 gauge was a thing. Were guns made to fit available ammunition, or was ammunition made to fit available guns? Both, I’m guessing.
Europeans on the continent liked the 16, perhaps because their shooting style favoured long walks, and we all recognize the benefits of a lighter gun on those days. Waterfowlers wanted big bores, and carrying weight wasn’t the first consideration. Balance is a near-mystical holy grail of upland gunners, where a technical breakdown of grams and balance points doesn’t capture the magic of a perfectly balanced gun in one’s hands – you know it when you feel it. Many have claimed this quality is more frequently attained in a 16, but who knows? Beside a 12, a 16 looks slim and svelte, as does a 20 beside a 16. Maybe the 14 gauge had the same effect of looking more refined beside the 12. Much of gunmaking came about by looks alone, and generations of plagiarizing.
I was a collector of museum specimens by trade long ago, and my Ithaca Model 37 in 16 took the smallest to the largest on several continents. I never considered for a moment that I was under-gunned or ill-equipped. Because of that history, I like the 16. Like others have said, if you started with a 16 or had a wonderful 16 at some point, you feel attached to the gauge. I suppose the same can be said about the 28, but I’ve never had or fired one.
Now I’m old enough to be opinionated about most things, but preference of gauge is not a deciding factor if I’m deciding to buy a gun. When I pick it up, I just know if it is coming home with me – the look, quality, feel, measurements and, yes, balance, tell me all I need to know. Gauge, chamber length and choke only determine what I put into it.
There is almost nothing a 12 can do that a 16 can’t do; there is almost nothing a 16 can do that a 20 can’t do just as well – you get the picture. It makes you wonder why different gauges still exist or why they were developed in the first place. Barrel sizes were determined long before fluid steel barrels, choke boring, compressible wads etc., came along. It wasn’t that long ago that 14 gauge was a thing. Were guns made to fit available ammunition, or was ammunition made to fit available guns? Both, I’m guessing.
Europeans on the continent liked the 16, perhaps because their shooting style favoured long walks, and we all recognize the benefits of a lighter gun on those days. Waterfowlers wanted big bores, and carrying weight wasn’t the first consideration. Balance is a near-mystical holy grail of upland gunners, where a technical breakdown of grams and balance points doesn’t capture the magic of a perfectly balanced gun in one’s hands – you know it when you feel it. Many have claimed this quality is more frequently attained in a 16, but who knows? Beside a 12, a 16 looks slim and svelte, as does a 20 beside a 16. Maybe the 14 gauge had the same effect of looking more refined beside the 12. Much of gunmaking came about by looks alone, and generations of plagiarizing.
I was a collector of museum specimens by trade long ago, and my Ithaca Model 37 in 16 took the smallest to the largest on several continents. I never considered for a moment that I was under-gunned or ill-equipped. Because of that history, I like the 16. Like others have said, if you started with a 16 or had a wonderful 16 at some point, you feel attached to the gauge. I suppose the same can be said about the 28, but I’ve never had or fired one.
Now I’m old enough to be opinionated about most things, but preference of gauge is not a deciding factor if I’m deciding to buy a gun. When I pick it up, I just know if it is coming home with me – the look, quality, feel, measurements and, yes, balance, tell me all I need to know. Gauge, chamber length and choke only determine what I put into it.
Falconflyer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Well said Pinfire, it really is about the gun and not the guage. I've purchased shotguns because of the guage but I've sold shotguns because the gun didn't really turn my crank, never because of the guage.
