160 grain Accubonds 7mm

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Anybody using these in 280's or 7mm Rem Mag?

if you could tell me about experiences with game that would be much appreciated. I killed one bear with this bullet about six years ago in my 7saum and it worked excellent on a 120 yard quartering shot.
 
I know the 140's worked great on a big buck that I shot last year with my 7mm SAUM . I did not find the bullet as it was a pass through. The old deer didn't like it very much.
it was 60 yards or so.
 
I shot a nice bull moose at about 140yds with a .280 using them,and never recovered the bullet.Between the ribs on the way in,made a mess of the lungs,and broke a rib on the way out.The exit hole was about the size of a loonie.

My son took a small year old B-bear at 60yds with the same load busting both shoulders,with a fist size exit wound.
 
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I'm shooting 139-grain Accubonds out of my 7mm and am impressed so far. I've never been a big fan of heavy bullets for the 7mm but I suspect you could expect equal performance from them as the 139s.
 
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l found them very accurate but on 3 occasions total disintegration of the bullet ,and before everyone jumps in and ask if how fast they were coming out at,no they werent going to fast and they didnt hit bone,l ve talked to other people with similar results,and also seen two failures with people shooting animals with them ,but if they work for you so be it.
 
Great bullet. My fatherinlaw uses the factory 160gr AB's in the Winchester Supreme ammo. I was going to reload for his but I can barely find the time to reload for my own rifles. I personally use only the Accubonds in my rifles. 180gr in my 300WM, 140gr in my 270WSM's and will be using 225gr in my 338-06AI when I get it from Rocky Mountain Rifles.

Very accurate bullets. Incredible performance on big game. Mostly complete pass thru double lung penetration with major internal damage. I have only recovered 2 bullets (180gr from my 300WM that retained 83.3% original weight-after a rearward quartering away shot on my mulie buck in 2004. Shot behind LF shoulder in the boiler maker and it passed thru the RF shoulder and found in the hide) and a 140gr from my 270WSM that retained 100.3gr (71.4%) taken from my wife's cow elk last season.

My reloads in one of my 270WSM's gives me a 5 shot grouping of 0.217" @ 100metres, the other is 0.4" . In my 300WM grouping is 0.5" - cant remember exact -would have to look in my reload data booklet.

I traded all of my TSX bullets for both calibers for Accubonds b/c I was so impressed with the performance on the range and on Big Game that why reload with another bullet right now. Sure wish reloaders could get the XP3's to reload with. But for now its ACCUBONDS for me. Everyone in our moose camp shoots either factory Winchester Supreme ammo or reloads using Accubonds in their 300WM or 270WSM. Only one guy shoots factory TTSX b/c the Sako 300WM rifle he recently bought used was sighted in with them-shoots good.

I'm going to send you a PM to see if you are interested.



The fatherinlaw dropped a nice colored bear in its tracks with one shot from one of my 270WSM's.
 
I 160's in a 7mm mag for a season, but never killed anything when I was carrying the 7. I figured that was bad karma and sold the gun to a guy form Toronto.

They were extremely accurate.
 
I have also used the 160 AB in my 7mm RM. I loaded rounds up with IMR7828 and got very good velocity and accuracy. I can't remember the exact numbers, but your mileage will vary anyways. I shot a blacktail with it at ~90 yards. Hit behind the shoulder, a little high (well below the spine) and he arched his back, took two steps back and toppled over.

Not that you need a 7mm RM for blacktails.:redface:
 
bullcoon said:
l found them very accurate but on 3 occasions total disintegration of the bullet ,and before everyone jumps in and ask if how fast they were coming out at,no they werent going to fast and they didnt hit bone,l ve talked to other people with similar results,and also seen two failures with people shooting animals with them ,but if they work for you so be it.
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I would have to agree with this statement. I have had some failures as well. Follow up shots helped, but that is not always realistic. Of the 7 deer I have taken with the ABs, I had 2 failures, both were broadside shots into the chest cavity and only hit a rib. I guess they weren't total failures, but they are supposed to have a reputation for high bullet retention!

I am considering going to the TSXs.
 
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I would have to agree with this statement. I have had some failures as well. Follow up shots helped, but that is not always realistic. Of the 7 deer I have taken with the ABs, I had 2 failures, both were broadside shots into the chest cavity and only hit a rib. I guess they weren't total failures, but they are supposed to have a reputation for high bullet retention!

I am considering going to the TSXs.
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Can you describe your "failures"?
 
sheephunter said:
I'm shooting 139-grain Accubonds out of my 7mm and am impressed so far. I've never been a big fan of heavy bullets for the 7mm but I suspect you could expect equal performance from them as the 139s.
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I believe you are shooting 139gr Interbonds not Accubonds,as the Noslers only come in 140's.

I love the Accubonds. I have shot a lot of animals with 140gr .277 bullets. At 2900fps it sure did a great job on everything. I would say the 160gr at 2900-3000 would do an impressive job.
 
martinbns said:
Can you describe your "failures"?
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Disintegration/genading of the bullet, found the reminants in the chest cavity, did not make it out of the chest, which I guess is good for not damaging meat. The largest piece weighed 41 grains (of the ones I found). These deer were not huge bruisers either. Yes, lots of blood in the cavity, so they were killing shots. Maybe "failure" would not be the best choice of words. The bullets behaving like this I would expect from hitting a larger bone, but not a thinner rib bone. I've seen Partitions do better in this situation and the ABs were supposed to be the next generation Partition.

Of the successes I have seen, some of the ABs exit the deer or penetrate the far side, as well as keeping together fairly well with a good mushroom. One retrieved bullet weighed 129 grains. That one was a downward semi-frontal shot near the shoulder at about 50 yds. The deer did not go far, maybe 5 steps. Found the bullet in the far front leg.

My concern is using these bullets on larger/tougher game like elk, moose, and bear. When the ABs perform, they do a great job. But I would hate to experience a breakdown on a major trip or something like that.

Hey Tod, here is some interesting reading from Nosler's reloading forum site. Just a quick search found these threads. It is a Nosler site, so there are lots of converts/fans of the ABs there. Take it with a grain of salt.


http://noslerreloading.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5822&highlight=acubond+failure

http://noslerreloading.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=109&highlight=acubond+failure
 
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I would have to agree with this statement. I have had some failures as well. Follow up shots helped, but that is not always realistic. Of the 7 deer I have taken with the ABs, I had 2 failures, both were broadside shots into the chest cavity and only hit a rib. I guess they weren't total failures, but they are supposed to have a reputation for high bullet retention!

I am considering going to the TSXs.
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Did the bullets exit? If you're talking 'retention,' did you recover them? What happened exactly?

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Disintegration/genading of the bullet, found the reminants in the chest cavity, did not make it out of the chest, which I guess is good for not damaging meat. The largest piece weighed 41 grains (of the ones I found). These deer were not huge bruisers either. Yes, lots of blood in the cavity, so they were killing shots. Maybe "failure" would not be the best choice of words. The bullets behaving like this I would expect from hitting a larger bone, but not a thinner rib bone. I've seen Partitions do better in this situation and the ABs were supposed to be the next generation Partition.

Of the successes I have seen, some of the ABs exit the deer or penetrate the far side, as well as keeping together fairly well with a good mushroom. One retrieved bullet weighed 129 grains. That one was a downward semi-frontal shot near the shoulder at about 50 yds. The deer did not go far, maybe 5 steps. Found the bullet in the far front leg.

My concern is using these bullets on larger/tougher game like elk, moose, and bear. When the ABs perform, they do a great job. But I would hate to experience a breakdown on a major trip or something like that.

Hey Tod, here is some interesting reading from Nosler's reloading forum site. Just a quick search found these threads. It is a Nosler site, so there are lots of converts/fans of the ABs there. Take it with a grain of salt.


http://noslerreloading.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5822&highlight=acubond+failure

http://noslerreloading.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=109&highlight=acubond+failure
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I have heard some stories like yours. I have better performance than what you describe with ballistic tips on deer. That is one of the reason's I love TSX bullets on animals larger than deer.
 
I shot a couple groups in my 280 with them, with H100V they did 1.6", and with RL19 they did 1.3" (both 4 shot groups from prone w/ bipod & rear bag @ 100 yards). I have some loaded up with AA3100 to try...I hope a 1" group or less & 2800 fps will be possible
 
Has anyone used the 260 grain Accubonds in the .375? I have a bunch loaded up for bears and I don't want to have any bullet failure issues. The 'reviews' that I have read on the internet have been positive, actually the reverse of the issues that are outlined here.
 
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