17 HMR options or recomendations

I had a 455 Canadian, shot very well with good ammo, but good ammo was hard to find. I also found it to be not the most efficient for killing ground hogs, more wounded that there should have been considering shot placement. I went back to 85 gr 6.5 x 55. They no longer crawl away. Lucky shots with Coyotes, but you can do better. .223 would work well too.
 
I would not turn a nose up at the savage 93. Mine was reliable and accurate and cheap. If i didnt get out of the 17 game and into 22wmr, it would have been easy to keep.
Never had issues with the mags? I had one years ago and the rifle was fine. Mags crap.
 
I gotta say the straight pull bolt on T-Bolt is really cool... You keep your line of sight..
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Too bad the trigger is a plastic cassette piece of SH IT! They are accurate and the rotary mags nice and fits unobtrusive in the stock. Was shooting some pidgeons for the farmer when I was in Saskatchewan. Pulled the trigger and click, ejected the round and chambered another, pulled the Jard trigger and boom!! Extremely loud report, blew the mag out and destroyed the plastic/polymer magwell, split the laminate stock from just in front of the action all the way past the tang, about 9 inches. The first round,even though it didn’t go bang but click, pushed the bullet into the barrel and the powder into the neck of the case! My own fault for ASSuming.IMG_3716.jpegIMG_3688.jpegIMG_3691.jpegIMG_3690.jpeg
 
I mentioned ammo quality in the post quoted below. The issue I had was with cases splitting at the neck. Remington was the only brass that did not, Federal was the worst with maybe 4-6 out of every 50, Hornady and Winchester about two per box. Couple boxes of each, so not a huge sample group; I am wondering if maybe Remington's brass was sourced from a different supplier, and maybe Federal, Hornady and Winchester were buying brass from another supplier (company structures have changed a lot since then. These also affected group size by causing a flier, and blew soot in your face (CZ455 rifle). Maybe pushed out to market before all it's short comings and bugs are identified and fixed. Hornady is quick to push new stuff out while the market are the testing department.

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I had a 455 Canadian, shot very well with good ammo, but good ammo was hard to find. I also found it to be not the most efficient for killing ground hogs, more wounded that there should have been considering shot placement. I went back to 85 gr 6.5 x 55. They no longer crawl away. Lucky shots with Coyotes, but you can do better. .223 would work well too.
Too bad the trigger is a plastic cassette piece of SH IT! They are accurate and the rotary mags nice and fits unobtrusive in the stock. Was shooting some pidgeons for the farmer when I was in Saskatchewan. Pulled the trigger and click, ejected the round and chambered another, pulled the Jard trigger and boom!! Extremely loud report, blew the mag out and destroyed the plastic/polymer magwell, split the laminate stock from just in front of the action all the way past the tang, about 9 inches. The first round,even though it didn’t go bang but click, pushed the bullet into the barrel and the powder into the neck of the case! My own fault for ASSuming.View attachment 1181497View attachment 1181498View attachment 1181499View attachment 1181500
 
Here’s a pic of the bullet I knocked out of the barrel with a cleaning rod! The ammo in question was a Federal. I’ve never heard or seen a round just go click and push the bullet out of the case and move all of he unburnt powder to the neck. It also proves why wearing shooting glasses is a good idea cuz I definitely got blow back in my face. Some wood glue and a bit of McGiverring with the plastic mag bx and I was shooting it again until I ran out of ammo at the end of the trip. IMG_3695.png
 
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When I purchased my T-Bolt I was aware of the trigger design and complaints and had done some research on upgrades and was prepared to put a Jard in it. However the trigger wasn't too bad in mine.. I did polish the bolt though on the recommendation of some of the research. In particular I put a mirror finish on the bolt sear ramp and edge.. Taking out all those tooling marks made the bolt close very smoothly and may have contributed to the trigger being acceptable for my needs.. I used jewelers rouge and felt dremel to polish the surfaces.. It's very nice now..
 
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