17hmr?

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hey guys, i'm looking at getting a 17HMR. couple questions. I'm looking at either Ruger or Savage. I kinda like the Savage guns better and the price is just about right. should I go with the Accutrigger or not? can an Accutrigger be added aftermarket? is 17 Hornady Magnum the same as 17HMR? anyone have any experience with the Savage Mark II 17HM2 BVSS?

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.17 HMR Savage

My early model Savage .17 is very accurate with CCI ammo. It didn't come with an AccuTrigger but an aftermarket trigger solved that little problem. The big advantage is Savage (for me) is is that it's available in left hand models.
 
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hey guys, i'm looking at getting a 17HMR. couple questions. I'm looking at either Ruger or Savage. I kinda like the Savage guns better and the price is just about right. should I go with the Accutrigger or not? can an Accutrigger be added aftermarket? is 17 Hornady Magnum the same as 17HMR? anyone have any experience with the Savage Mark II 17HM2 BVSS?
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IMO the quality of the Ruger bolt-action rimfires is on an entirely different level than the Savage rimfires. i actually like the standard centerfire Savage line (as an economy rifle) but their rimfire line takes a huge dive in terms of quality and design. ive heard both good and bad about their quality control and reliability, but after handling them i decided i would never get one - they just look and feel so cheap, like disposable toys. there was also a thread on here on the Savage rimfires not too long ago full of horror stories about quality control and people having to get a gun replaced 3-4 times and having them still plagued with glaring QC issues.

the Ruger bolt-action rimfires like the 77/22 and 77/17 are significantly more expensive than a Savage but IMO are far more worth it if you intend to keep this gun for a long time: they make no compromises on quality or function unlike other companies who really 'cheapen' their rimfire lineup. something like the K77/17 Varminter is a really nice gun.

also look at CZ if the Ruger bolt-actions are too expensive - again the CZs are a real firearm as opposed to a disposable toy.

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is 17 Hornady Magnum the same as 17HMR?
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yes, theyre the same. stay away from the .17 HM2 or Mach 2, lot of companies putting these on sale but the lifespan of the HM2 is going to be pretty short considering that there are about 10-15 HMR rifles sold for every HM2.
 
.17 Hmr

I have a CZ american and all i can say is it is a tack driver. As far as i'm concerned the CZ is the best 17 HMR on the market.
 
What are the prices on a cz? as far as im concerned i payed 400 for my rig and it puts 5 shots into a dime at 150 yards heavy barrel just wondering on the price comparision not "playin hate" on your rifles or anything;).
 
The savage rifles are great for the price. I think my .17 was $419 (?) about a year ago. For the price, it can shoot well in spite of the sensitivities of .17 HMR (wind, inconsistencies of factory ammo)

They are excellent practice for long range shooting, and will severely mess a gopher up at 200 yards.

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Consider a Marlin bolt. Put in a rifle Basix trigger and you've got a really nice shooter. Mine likes the Hornady 17 hmr and will easily shoot MOgopher in the working range of the round.
 
I have a Savage Thumbhole stainless accu trigger with a Bushnell Trophy 6x18,I tried all the diff brands of ammo and mines likes the Hornady best.On a calm day it will easy shoot 5 into 3/4" most times closer to 1/2" I have no problem head shooting the 200 meter chickens.
 
thanks for the info guys. i really like the looks of the CZ452 Varmint. and the price is pretty good too. I'd probably swap the stock for a thumbhole stock though. is 17HMR enough power to drop the odd coyote? or woulkd 22-250 be better suited to that?
 
.17HMR is way too small a round for something the size of a coyote. also once you start getting around or past 100 yards the killing power drops off significantly as the lightweight bullet runs out of steam.
im sure some smartass will say theyve shot a coyote with one, but its not an ethical choice for them any more than .22 LR is for deer.

id say minimum .22 Hornet or .223.
.17HMR is meant for varmints under ~15lb.
 
how much do you want to spend? want stainless/synthetic, blued/walnut, etc? are you dead-set on .22-250 or just want something in that range of power? be more specific - im sure youll get a lot of suggestions here but it helps if you narrow it down.
 
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looking for something in the 500 - 600 dollar range, scope not included. similar to the CZ 452, heavy barrel, bolt action. looking for an all-around varmint gun, gophers, coyotes etc. want relatively low power, less than .243 is best as i already have a 7mm, and accurate at long ranges. would like to be able to buy ammo fairly cheap and have ease of reloading when i start loading. and i eventually woul dlike to put a laminated thumbhole stock on it.

hope that narrows it down a bit.
 
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its hard to beat .223 as a 'general purpose' varmint/predator caliber. light recoil, wide availability of ammo and it can be cheaper to shoot than most centerfire calibers.

for $560 you can get a Remington SPS Varmint in .223, .22-250, .204 Ruger or .243 at SIR mailorder.
heres a review: snipercentral.com/remspsv.htm
its pretty much a 700 Police at half the price, without the HS Precision fibreglass stock and matte-blued instead of Parkerized. you could order a laminate thumbhole stock from someplace like Boyd's or Richards Microfit down the road and its a simple drop-in. tonnes of aftermarket accessories for the Remington 700s, its the most common rifle action.

consider this though: unless you are taking several shots per minute, where heating up your barrel comes into play, you really dont need a heavy barreled gun - first shot accuracy will be just as good with a lighter barrel. laminate also adds a retarded amount of weight.
i have a .223 700P and scoped with a heavy varmint scope, bipod, etc its over 14lbs. it is not pleasant to carry around while trekking across fields all day.

if you find you dont need a heavy barrel you could simply order a Stevens 200 in .223 or .22-250 for $300, theyre a very accurate 'no frills' entry level bolt action, search the forum for hundreds of threads on them. you could order your laminate stock for it right now, and be out the door with a thumbhole laminate varmint gun in the caliber of your choice at $500-600.
 
wow. that's alot of great info. thanks. my 7mm is a Rem. 700 SPS DM. that SPS Varmint would be a cool match. I would defnintely be putting on a laminate stock. mainly because I have 2 synthetic guns already and kind of want a wood-style stock. i'll check out that Stevens as well.
 
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