180gr hunting crimpable bullet
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If you don't need a premium bullet, I would suggest the Remington 180 gr Corelokt, but any traditional bullet with a cannelure from Winchester, Hornady, or Speer will do the trick. If a premium bullet is required, then any of the Barnes Banded bullets such as the TSX, TTSX etc provide you with what you are looking for.
Buy a Lee Factory Crimp Die and it will allow you to crimp any bullet you want. regardless of whether it has a groove of not. It is especially useful if the OAL of a particular cartridge is not on the cannelure and you need to crimp anyway.
Semi-autos don't absolutely require crimping. Neck tension is enough. Haven't ever crimped for my M1 or my M14. Never had any problems.
If you insist, Hornady's 180's have a crimping groove. Other than their 180 RN, Sierras do not. Speer only makes their Grand Slam 180 with a groove. Nosler doesn't make one with a groove, at all.
If you insist, Hornady's 180's have a crimping groove. Other than their 180 RN, Sierras do not. Speer only makes their Grand Slam 180 with a groove. Nosler doesn't make one with a groove, at all.
Awesome, I might just try not crimping then, but If I can put my hands on a fair priced hornady bullet I might just try it too.
Would the SST be a good choice?
I read the barnes TTSX really didn't performed as expected almost every review on reloadersnest bashes them.
I still need a reliable bullet as it is for moose hunting out of a 3006
Would the SST be a good choice?
I read the barnes TTSX really didn't performed as expected almost every review on reloadersnest bashes them.
I still need a reliable bullet as it is for moose hunting out of a 3006
The Hornady SST Interlock, is an excellent hunting bullet. I saw a bear shot with one in 7mm. The bullet held together as well as the regular Interlock bullet but had the performance of the SST. The bullet, exited the far shoulder and couldn't be recovered. The exit wound wasn't larger than a couple of cm. Looked like perfect performance. The range was about 75m.
If you're going to look for the SST Interlock, just add a "5" to the SST id number.
The bullets seem to be hard to find. I could never find more than one box of any caliber/weight in any store. This is the first year I have seen the SST Interlock on the shelves. I hope it continues to be produced. It is certainly a performer in all categories. It is extremely consistent accuracy wise as well.
If you're going to look for the SST Interlock, just add a "5" to the SST id number.
The bullets seem to be hard to find. I could never find more than one box of any caliber/weight in any store. This is the first year I have seen the SST Interlock on the shelves. I hope it continues to be produced. It is certainly a performer in all categories. It is extremely consistent accuracy wise as well.
Hornady bullets are generally the best priced of any I buy, the SST's are usually about 1/2 the price of accubonds. The SST is simply a basic interlock bullet with a plastic tip on it. They are generally high BC bullets and work well at less than magnum velocities. Seeing as how the 30-06 will push a 180gr bullet to around 2750fps, you should have good luck with an SST. Good luck finding them in stock, however.
+1 on not needing a crimp in a semi, I have never crimped for my Garand and have had no issues.
Mark
You don't need a premium bullet. I took a large 4 yr old cow last year with my .30-06 using a 165gn Remington PSP bulk bullet 264yds. Through and through, NO HEART, both lungs gone and part of the liver tore up. Entrance was as big as my little finger, could almost put a fist through the exit. Had to be a 3" hole. Just learn the rules and stick to them. Premium bullets are great, but not necessary for the avg hunter who wouldn't shoot beyond 300yds. I would use them for particular hunting situations. Not for everyday hunting.
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Please explain how a single shot through both lungs and the heart can also hit the liver? Seems like a magical mystery to me! on the other hand, I also like the Remington 165's and use them a lot, no complaints.
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I am using Winchester bulk PP's, 180gr, in .308 dia, and they have a cannelure to crimp to. All my rifles seem to like them.
As others have mentioned, you likely DO NOT need to crimp.
I shoot semi's in .308, 30-06 and 338 win mag and I never crimp. I noticed you are shooting accubonds - I shoot them in my M1 Garand and I don't crimp them. Never had a problem and they group under 1.5" with a cheap scout scope.
As others have mentioned the SST is a fine overall bullet; actually I think it is probaly the best buy out there for the money. It's kind of my standar bullet nowadays, from my 6.5x55 to .338 win mag. I don't crimp them though, even in my semi's. If Hornady stared putting out SST's in .375 dia in 300gr, then I'd probably switch to them altogether...
As others have mentioned, you likely DO NOT need to crimp.
I shoot semi's in .308, 30-06 and 338 win mag and I never crimp. I noticed you are shooting accubonds - I shoot them in my M1 Garand and I don't crimp them. Never had a problem and they group under 1.5" with a cheap scout scope.
As others have mentioned the SST is a fine overall bullet; actually I think it is probaly the best buy out there for the money. It's kind of my standar bullet nowadays, from my 6.5x55 to .338 win mag. I don't crimp them though, even in my semi's. If Hornady stared putting out SST's in .375 dia in 300gr, then I'd probably switch to them altogether...
The 30-06 has a very long neck. A lot of neck tension. No need to crimp at all..
To verify, load a dummy round and load it from the mag a number of times, and see if the bullet pulls out at all.
If you ever need extra tension, remove the decpping rod and re-size the case. This will make neck even tighter.
To verify, load a dummy round and load it from the mag a number of times, and see if the bullet pulls out at all.
If you ever need extra tension, remove the decpping rod and re-size the case. This will make neck even tighter.
The 180gr Hornady is an accurate bullet and a good performer on game. The Interlocks have been around since JHC was a Lance-Cpl in the Jewish underground and they are as good as ever. Clever marketing has convinced people that magnums and premium priced bullets are the only way to go nowadays.
Allright then
Since I have a box of Ballistic tips and a box of accubonds, Ill try this out with the BTIPS without crimping. I'm confident it will work. Ill try the dummy round thing too. If I see anything wrong, Think I'll get myself a box of SST's or SPs. If It's right then I'll finish working my load up with the accubonds.
BTW, what are those SP bullets ? on Remington's website all I could find was Premier Accutip or Core-lokt
Thanks alot for the advise.
JP
Since I have a box of Ballistic tips and a box of accubonds, Ill try this out with the BTIPS without crimping. I'm confident it will work. Ill try the dummy round thing too. If I see anything wrong, Think I'll get myself a box of SST's or SPs. If It's right then I'll finish working my load up with the accubonds.
BTW, what are those SP bullets ? on Remington's website all I could find was Premier Accutip or Core-lokt
Thanks alot for the advise.
JP
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SP is short for spire point, which is pretty much any pointed bullet that is not a round nose. SST's, Accubonds, TTSX and all the other pointy nosed bullets are all spire points. The SP's mentioned here are the flat base bullets, not the boat-tailed ones. The flat bases lower your BC somewhat, but that is not typically an issue at normal hunting distances. If your gun likes the flat base SP's over any of the boat tail bullets, I would use the flat base ones.
The Hornady SP: http://www.hornady.com/store/338-Cal-.338-250-gr-SP-RP/
The Hornady SST: http://www.hornady.com/store/338-Cal-.338-225-gr-SST/
Mark
