1887 Lever Action Shotgun Review, Disassembly, Troubleshooting

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Well I always wanted one and finally picked up an 1887 lever action shotgun. This one is from the batch that was imported by lever arms. It has a 28” barrel and full stock, holds 5 in the mag tube, but has a total capacity of 6+1 because an extra shell can rest in the action and one in the chamber for 7 overall.

These have also been imported by marstar in the past (18” barrel/full stock) and recently by canada ammo as the T2 terminator special (18”, pistol grip only). In the states they were imported by IAC. Of course I wanted one because I did see it 1st in terminator 2 and then the mummy and thought it was just really cool. Recently it has become a hit in the call of duty games, but I have never played the game.

Here is the video review, but the write up is below:

A bit of history on the gun: it was designed by the famous firearm designer John Moses Browning and went into production in 1887, and was for black powder shells only. In 1901, an updated model came on the market that could handle smokeless powder but was offered in 10 GA only. The Chinese copy is of course offered in 12 GA, 2 ¾” shells only.

The gun seems pretty solid overall, the blue finish is very good, and the stock is decent, though I am seeing some dings in it already from very light use.

The internals of the gun are pretty rough (and filled with cosmoline!). I suggest tearing the gun down completely and giving it a good clean and file/sand down all the rough surfaces. This will help with the function and allow smoother feeding, extraction and ejection.

You have to work the lever like you hate it to get the gun to function 100%, and there is a very specific way to work the action, otherwise there could be issues like double feeding from the magazine (sometimes called a “train wreck”), shells can get hung up while chambering (feed ramp area is rough), and the biggest issue is ejection of the last shell (can get stuck on the extractors).

This video shows the issues:

The way to properly work the action is to apply forward / upper pressure to the lever while working the action, however natural instinct when the shotgun is shouldered, is to pull down on the lever, which will lead to the issues above. It doesn’t help that the two piece lever does not have the leather wrapping around it, because the lever can pinch your finger when applying the needed upward pressure.

When it works, it is a joy to shoot, when it jams, it is very frustrating!
 
I also made a series of disassembly videos showing how to take the gun apart. They can be found below:

Part 1: Action Removal

Part 2: Stock Removal
 
Part 3: Mag Tube Removal

Part 4: Extractor Removal

The last video also outlines what needs to be done to the extractors to make them reliable. Basically what needs to happen is that the left extractor has to hold the shell ½” to 1” out of the chamber, and then snap up and let go. The right extractor has to continuously pivot down as the action opens and continue extracting when the left lets go. If it is not tilted all the way down near the end of the extraction cycle, the last shell will get hung up on both the extractors and not eject.

The extractors and the area they sit in need a lot of smoothing/sanding/polishing to make sure the extractors move freely, and the extractors need some filing to get them to the proper profile.

Here are some areas that need to be smoothed out:
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More information about the problems you can experience with the shotgun and some fixes can be found here: w ww.coyotecap.com/gunsmithingsimplified.htm
 
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Thanks for the info I have wanted one of these for a very long time and the reason that I never got one was because of all the problems you mentioned. You showed how to fix them all and You can't be thanked enough.
 
Wow! Great job luke s!!! (I see you are a son on Martha, what camp are you from?)

Cheers
Jay
P.S. I am also a son of Martha, camp 9.
 
Thank you so much for making these videos Luke. I will be definitely needing these when my DA Terminator arrives. It looks like a lot of pieces have to come off to strip this gun down. Though once all the rough edges have been smoothed out, it should be a reliable lever action shotgun.
 
Wow! Great job luke s!!! (I see you are a son on Martha, what camp are you from?)

Cheers
Jay
P.S. I am also a son of Martha, camp 9.

Thanks Jay.

I tend to go in depth with my reviews (see the GSG and NP29 threads), I guess it is in my nature to take things apart and see how they work. Camp #11 here
 
you will be just fine mr dave shotgun, the action is really simple to get back together and the rest is even easier. I made a assembly video, but its 15 min long so far and needs editing and will take forever to upload haha
 
Thanks Luke, the videos were very helpful. After a complete disassembly, filing, sanding and polishing my Dominion Arms 1887 now functions as I would expect it to. I might have to go back and work on the ejectors a little bit, but a major improvement from the way it arrived!
 
The extractors and the area they sit in need a lot of smoothing/sanding/polishing to make sure the extractors move freely, and the extractors need some filing to get them to the proper profile.]

"the proper profile", do you have an image(s) of the proper profile(s)?
 
Just got mine today. My first question is: How do you clean the cosmoline off the stock? The wood seems different than the one on the sks. Heat gun OK? water and soap? something else?

Thanks
 
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So I took it apart, cleaned up the cosmoline and put gun oil on it. I used some spray for wood furniture to better clean up the stock. Videos on this thread helped me with taking it apart. Thank you luke. I used this video to put it back together, it was easier than expected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLn6Jje9RdE

Mine came with a full stock and installing the pistol is challenging. I will need to do some work to make it fit.

I have two more questions. One is about the lever not going all the way and I posted it in a different thread. The second one is, are there any parts or accessories available for this shotgun.

I most likely will shoot it this Saturday, quite excited :)

Thank you
 
i have one for sale , in 22 inch barrel if someone interested , gunsmith already work the action to correct the issue .
the shotgun never fired , is brand new . visite my post if you are interested .
 
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