1911 22 conversions on 9mm 1911 frame.

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Noobish question? I've expired all search options on the topic (or lack of)

I am interested in picking up a 1911 .22 conversion kit for my Para LTC 1911 in 9mm. I was unsure of the compatability.

Has anyone tried this or know if it would work or not at all?.

I'd hate to drop a few hundred to discover that it would be a dud.

Any info is appreciated, thanks in advance.
 
You might have to remove the Para's ejector to allow the conversion to slide onto the frame.

That could be easily done.
 
Wendell said:
You might have to remove the Para's ejector to allow the conversion to slide onto the frame.

That could be easily done.
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Most .22 units are designed to go on frames of 1911's in .45ACP. The cut in the .22 unit slide will clear the .45ACP ejector that is pinned into the top of the 1911 .45ACP frame. So, it doesn't have to be removed to work with the .22 unit.

The .22 unit should work with your 1911 9mm frame but you likely will have to remove the 9mm ejector for the .22 unit slide to clear. [To remove the ejector, drift out the cross pin in the frame and remove ejector from top, careful not to damage the little support 'legs' of the ejector that go down into the frame].

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NAA.
 
I am really considering purchasing a 22 kit off the EE right now, but I just got off the phone with Lauren and a Smith from ParaOrdnace just now.

It will not work, it is a "physical impossibility due to the differences in sizes on the frame and slides"

Huh? I thought it the frames would be the same. :(

If it's a sure thing that it would work with something as slightly involved as removing an ejector, I could manage that. But does anyone know this business about the ejector for sure for sure?.
 
Sorry, right you are regarding the above concerning the Para LTC frame..... :(

The .22 conversion units are usually setup for full length 1911 frames. The LTC is a commander sized frame [about 3/4" shorter in the front dust cover]. So, there would be a gap between the front of the frame and the slide in the same area. That's why it won't work with a .22 unit made for a full length 1911 frame.

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Cyanide Ride said:
Does anyone know this business about the ejector for sure for sure?.
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In ~ 30 years of owning various 1911's and having had over 100 different ones in that time & also having owned 3 different .22 conversion units I can tell you "for sure, for sure" that the information concerning the ejectors is correct.

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NAA said:
Sorry, right you are regarding the above concerning the Para LTC frame..... :(

The .22 conversion units are usually setup for full length 1911 frames. The LTC is a commander sized frame [about 3/4" shorter in the front dust cover]. So, there would be a gap between the front of the frame and the slide in the same area.

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Yes, that makes sense. The smith just said "it won't work" and there was a looong awkward silence as I waited for a detailed explanation as to why. I guess they do not get many calls from customers directed to them :)

Thanks for the info NAA, I wasn't calling into question your skills or past experience, but if the people who make the gun tell me one thing and skilled artisans and gun enthusiasts are telling me another, don't take it personally, but I gotta ask the bottom line question :).

I will see if I can find other solutions, or just buy a complete 1911 22 pistol, or buy another 22 pistol.

I just wanted to retain the same training and handling with my standard 1911 but with the cost ease of 22's.

Thanks again!>
 
coudl it be a void warranty, liability issue if they tell you it would work?
 
Many conversions are government-length, and STI - among others - does not currently offer a commander-length conversion. (Use a government-length conversion on a commander-length frame and you'll have an unsightly gap at the dustcover/slide junction. It'll still work though.)

Some conversions are made to commander-length and officer-length. Ceiner - among others - offers these shorter conversion units.

The removal (and replacement) of the extractor is simple. Don't let that stop you from getting a rimfire conversion unit for your LTC.
 
Not going to work on the Commander length frame. However, you could go pick up an inexpensive full size Government Norinco frame and keep it dedicated for the .22 set-up.
 
STI Ranger II has a sub-commander barrel/slide that is on a Government frame. I used to own one and it would not fit my Commander holster due to the gov't length dust cover.
 
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