1911 buffers - clogging the gun?

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i installed some buffers into my 1911's tonight.

while kinda neat i did notice that on 2 of the 3 i put them into they are now doing something strange.

before when you racked the slide on a empty mag the slide would auto lock back.
then you could remove the empty mag and pull the slide back and it would let go and you could put it back to normal.
(so empty mag out, full mag in, pull back and its ready to run)

i noticed that on 2 of the guns i put them on tonight that they no longer do this.

has anyone else had this happen?

i didnt get to shoot them yet but im assuming that once they start to run with ammo they will eat away at whatever the rubber is gumming up.
im also assuming that maybe they are a little to fat and gumming up the slide a little - im sure that if i maybe trimmed them a bit the problem would be fixed.

thought id come in here and ask first to see if anyone has had this issue and what if anything they did to fix it.

thanks in advance.
 
Completely typical change in function after buffer installation. Some 1911s have enough room for the shock-buff while still retaining slingshot slide release, some don't. You can shave the buffers until they are thin enough, or use the slide stop lever to release the slide.

Just another reason to not use recoil buffers... :)
 
just out of curiosity, do you feel the benefit of a shock buffer? never tried one but i never had
a problem with the recoil of a 1911. i mean, the slide felt heavy enough to wield the gun
after the first shot. does it make the gun fire like a 22?

gotta say my xdm feels like it has more recoil than my kimbers :p i can shoot a 45 for hours; just love em!
 
I would suggest to remove the buffer, it's a gadget that the 1911 don't need from the beginning....many posts out there on this subject...
 
tazik said:
I would suggest to remove the buffer, it's a gadget that the 1911 don't need from the beginning....many posts out there on this subject...
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+1 on that. Adding a buffer will short stroke your action and could cause a malfunction. Make sure you replace your recoil spring every 5000 rounds and your slide/frame will last a long time.
 
masa said:
just out of curiosity, do you feel the benefit of a shock buffer? never tried one but i never had
a problem with the recoil of a 1911. i mean, the slide felt heavy enough to wield the gun
after the first shot. does it make the gun fire like a 22?

gotta say my xdm feels like it has more recoil than my kimbers :p i can shoot a 45 for hours; just love em!
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Shok Buffers have nothing to do with reducing recoil. What it's supposed to do is protect the slide from battering the frame on recoil.
 
mrclean said:
Or trim the spring a bit to make up for some of the space.
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Uhhh that won't solve this problem. It's the back of the plunger housing on the slide that is what hits the frame (now buffer) to stop the rearward travel of the slide.....spring length has nothing to do with it.
Best to loose the buffers.....useless really.
 
interesting.

i picked up a 6 pack on a impulse when ordering some other stuff, the ones i put in my Ruger 10/22 did a sweet job of helping the 22, i was kinda thinking that they would do the same to the 1911.

i havnt tried them yet, i think tomorrow ill try to get to the range to give them a try.
but ya, i think ill end up taking them out if they arnt really doing anything.
 
jackrabbit000 said:
Shok Buffers have nothing to do with reducing recoil. What it's supposed to do is protect the slide from battering the frame on recoil.
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What it's supposed to do is make money for the manufacturer of the part. :)

It does change the "feel" of the recoil. Some say it results in less snap.
 
ShooterReady.ca said:
and its more important if you are gaming it and running a really light recoil spring for competition than if you are using a regular one
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This would be the most valid point/post regarding whether or not to run a buff. For most 1911's that come stock with a spring out of the front of a Ford truck i wouldn't worry about a buffer.
 
wayupnorth said:
thought id come in here and ask first to see if anyone has had this issue and what if anything they did to fix it.
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I picked up a Nighthawk GRP off the EE a few years ago with a Shok Buf already installed. It jammed up the pistol during a match and I contacted Nighthawk about it, not knowing if it was installed at the factory or not--they unequivocally recommended against their use.
 
Sorry Hitzy, it is the backside of the guiderod that sits between the frame and the recoil spring plug housing then the buffer then the spring. So if you are adding a buffer there is less room for the spring to be compressed into, hence the issue with the slide release.
 
mrclean said:
Sorry Hitzy, it is the backside of the guiderod that sits between the frame and the recoil spring plug housing then the buffer then the spring. So if you are adding a buffer there is less room for the spring to be compressed into, hence the issue with the slide release.
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Dude, you are wrong, and ill show you how to check your theory.
Assemble the gun with the buffer and see how far the slide goes back. Then remove the spring plug and allow the spring to hang out the front of the slide and see how far the slide goes back.....it will be the same.
The spring never compresses 100% in any auto loader, or even comes close to that so a 4mm buffer will make it bind.
 
And if you have a FL guiderod,assemble the gun, take the complete top end off and see what the clearance is when you fully compress the spring with and without the buffer.
 
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