1911 Manual Safety
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ghostntheshell
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Isn't that what it's supposed to do?
your 45 is FUNCTIONing NORMALLY- as long as there's rearward pressure on the trigger bar, the hammer will fall- it;s the safety that INTERRUPTS the flow of events, and when you remove that , the hammer falls- it's SUPPOSED to do that- now, if you remove the rearWARD PRESSURE on the trigger, does the hammer STILL fall?if it does, then it's time for a trip to the gunsmith
The hammer falls on the Llama, just from releasing the safety
No, that's not right at all. With the safety on, the trigger shouldn't move, remove your finger from the trigger, then release the safety, and nothing should happen. Now, if you're releasing the safety with your finger on the trigger, damn skippy it should go off.you have to remember that the llama is NOT a true 1911 action- it has a number of "improvements" like an external extractor, pinned grip safety, and a couple of others i can't remember- the mags DON'T interchange- but in this case, i'd be looking at worn hammer notches, or something along those lines
That's kind of making sense to me now.
Bottom line after working with the Llama for a bit, is that I can #### the hammer set the manual safety and still fire the pistol 70% of the time
Me thinks something is amiss. Shall consult a smith.Good thing I didn't discover this at a steel challenge shoot, which requires setting the safety (if equipped) during mag changes
don't be surprised if you get a lot of negativity when you shop it around to get it fixed- it may well be that parts are unatainable , or need to be modified to work- there was a reason why llamas were half the price of a colt, and some of the spanish were downright inventive when it came to circumventing some of colt's patents- in short, it may cost more to fix it than it's worth
My curiousity got the better of me, and I just tried my Colt Series 80. If I apply a fair amount of trigger pressure, and snap the safety off, it drops the hammer. It doesn't seem to drop when I only apply enough pressure to equal the regular trigger pull. In any case, it isn't designed to require a re-set.
I'm thinking, this isn't the sort of thing you'd do by accident.
I'm thinking, this isn't the sort of thing you'd do by accident.
Bottom line after working with the Llama for a bit, is that I can #### the hammer set the manual safety and still fire the pistol 70% of the time
Well, if anyone has a problem with it, you COULD just hold up your index finger and say "This is MY safety."
1911 Safety
If the gun is held normally, and the trigger is depressed, moving the safety will let the hammer fall. if the gun were lying on the table, the trigger depressed abd the safety were taken off, the hammer would not fall, being held by the grip safety.
If the gun is held normally, and the trigger is depressed, moving the safety will let the hammer fall. if the gun were lying on the table, the trigger depressed abd the safety were taken off, the hammer would not fall, being held by the grip safety.
Hey, that's all I have ever used as a safety until shooting Steel Challenge. I must add, that I don't draw yet.
Ends up my pre B CZ behaves the same way as my Norc commander. Release the safety with trigger pressure applied, the hammer drops.
I've learned something here, thanks for all the feed back.
The Llama on the other hand has bigger issues.
The drill is to change mags and re-holster, so the safety has to go on some time during the change. Before the change is probably more accurate. Shooting 5 plates with a 10rnd mag leaves one in the chamber while changing mags.
