1919A4 value

Definitely north of 5K.

I recently sold a TNW .30-06 version with tripod, pintle, T&E, transit chest and three 250rd belts for $5300. Personally, I think the .308 versions are 'worth' a little more to a shooter, as ammo is much cheaper.

Note that just a new barrel won't change the caliber - there are extra parts needed to do a caliber conversion.

Tell me more about this cloth belt loading machine... is it set up for .30-06 or .308? If it's .308 - PLEASE PM ME! :)
 
Hi,

to be honest with you, I have never opened the cardboard box that it was sent to me in (years ago now). For All I know it's a box full of rocks! I don't think so, as it was a well respected dealer who sold it to me (now deceased). Here's a pic that he provided back in the day. I don't really want to separate, but would consider $1K

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For your best return, sell the gun with stock, carrry handle and bipod for the 5K...maybe a little more with the extra barrels. Then sell the tripod with pintle and T&E for $600, and the belt loading machine for another $900 or so.

A few years ago guys were clamoring to get the 8mm barrels. I rechambered a number of them for different people to use that swedish 8x63. But since that ammo has pretty much dried up (I still have a small mountain of it, but once that's gone there is no more) I don't see the 8mm barrel as a big plus.

Edited to add: I see your photo of the belt loading machine. It looks like a Canadian one. Look for C /l\ on the brass portions. your price of 1K is fair for that machine.
 
Thanks R.

Maybe that's a good direction. Yeah, the 8mm barrel was bought for the Swed ammo which vanished shortly thereafter. Agreed that it's of limited use now, but still a good bet "if" cheap 8mm ever appears again (yes, unicorns and triple rainbows too), Back in the day it cost me about 3.5 times what a .308 barrel was going for.
 
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OneBarfly said:
I also have a very good Canadian bolt (complete with extractor) available. Any idea what that would go for?
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The bolt would have to head south to realize it's full value. Down there you shoudl see $300, give or take, for a good Cdn bolt. Not sure there is any demand up here, since a full C1 conversion (even in semi auto) would end up using the NATO links, which could be argued, be limited to 5 round belts since they were originally designed for a post 1945 gun.
 
Canada initially used the GPMG in 30-06, and these belt loaders were in their original configuration for that caliber. I actually got one that went to scrap out of Moose Jaw in the mid 90s. It had tags on it indicating it had been used at CFAD in Dundurn.

We had no need for them in .308 since those guns used the metallic links.

The conversion kits were available from Ohio Ordnance back when the M1919 craze was on in the US. Not sure if they still sell them.

I'll say this much about the TNW M1919s: They can be a bugger to get running smoothly, but once you have the bugs worked out, they are pretty much the most fun you can legally have in Canada while still wearing pants.
 
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stencollector said:
Canada initially used the GPMG in 30-06, and these belt loaders were in their original configuration for that caliber. I actually got one that went to scrap out of Moose Jaw in the mid 90s. It had tags on it indicating it had been used at CFAD in Dundurn.

We had no need for them in .308 since those guns used the metallic links.

The conversion kits were available from Ohio Ordnance back when the M1919 craze was on in the US. Not sure if they still sell them.

I'll say this much about the TNW M1919s: They can be a bugger to get running smoothly, but once you have the bugs worked out, they are pretty much the most fun you can legally have in Canada while still wearing pants.
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If there is a W in the serial number, it was made in Windsor by Border City Industries. The Canadian Forces modified their M1919A4 to the 7.62mm C1 around 1968 to 1970, then to C5 and C5A1 in the late 70s.

The Lynx's used in 4CMBG Lahr used the 7.62mm C5 and .50 cal M2HB up to thend of Recce Sqn 8 CH(PL) in 1992. Some time in the 1990s, the Cougar, Grizzly and so on were refitted to take the C6.
 
It is my understanding that if there is a W in the serial number the gun was made in Walkerville, which has since been amalgamated into Windsor.

As well, there never was a C5. According to the manuals, they went from C1 to C5A1 to avoid confusing the model number with the C1A1 FN. Mind you, to add to the confusion, the CF manual title for the GPMG was C5, and as well the Canadian FRT mention the C5, although they cannot show the markings of one since it never existed. C5A1 conversion began, as you mention, in the very late 70s and ran well into the 80s.
 
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I think 1 Svc Bn, Edmonton was the last reg force unit to turn in there C5s 1999. they had been in stores so long ,there were only two of us left in the Bn that knew how to use them.
 
I was still issued one for the top of the M113A2 in 1997 or early 98. The artillery guys got 50s, but they gave us lowly mechanics the old GPMG. The guns got turned in that year,but all the tripods, T&Es, and accessories were disposed of locally.
 
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