1943 no 4 m1 riffle.. what its worth???

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I went to my friends house and he brought out a 1943 no4 m1 303.. he thought it was a 30 06.. Condition is like 6 out of ten . He said his step father was in the war and brought it back with him.. It has the peep sight..
What would this thing be worth? I can get serial numbers and stuff off it.. I have pictures of the gun.. I looked all over the gun and it does not have any hand written serial engraving number like my sks.. its all punched numbers. I'm not a professional like you guys on these gun so I have no ideal what im looking for.. The stock is pretty good shape, some mild rust on sights. it says long branch ..Guess it kinda hard to appraise a riffle without seeing it right?
 
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Too many factors to consider to make an off-the-cuff appraisal. Pics are a MUST! Is it numbers matching? Is it uncut? There are a lot of very knowledgeable people here who can tell you what you're looking at if you post pictures and the more the better.
 
Anywhere between $50 to $800 depending on the condition.

First off, yours is Canadian Made, Long branch was Canada's main arsenal and produced most of the Arms for the CAF until the adoption of the C7 in 1987. Made in 1943, like mentioned. Thats about all I can tell you based on your description...

Now that that's done with, value. Value will be based on two main things, weather or not the rifle is intact, and condition. a lot of Enfields were "sporterized" by cutting the full wood stock down to a more traditional sporter profile, barrel mods were common as well. Come more intense mods included milling off of the rear sights, stripper bridge, ect. To see weather its been sporterized, it should look like this:

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Tell us if it looks like this or not and we can apprase a little easier based on that.
 
yea it looks like this, but it has the peep sites. numbers all match.. im a newbi here I read somewhere I can upload pics, ill try and upload..

this gun does have to be cleaned up a bit.. only thing wrong is that its missing the sling clip on the rear stock..
im trying to upload now... ill offer this guy what ever you guys say its worth.. Those peep site are killer!!

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sorry cant upload pics... :(
 
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Nice find, with nice addition of Parker Hale sights. Should proved to e an excellent shooter. Looks to need a decent cleaning, but other then that a beauty!!! I wish it were in my gun safe :)
 
Around here, the rifle alone would get $600 to $700. and the PH5 target signts in good condition run $250. I believe there's one on the EE for sale with the target sight, so that could be a good guideline. I had one which I sold at the Orangville gun show for &800. last year and it was an English No.4. VERY nice find indeed!
 
ok.. ill phone him and see what he wants.. I thought those sight were expensive.. I pointed the riffle at a 300 yard range(didn't shoot just pointed) and it was awesome.. loved it.. . ill let you guys know what I pick this gun up for.... I might be up for a trade if I get this gun....

Thanks for the input guys
 
That is a rifle set up for target shooting competition. Grab it. At $500 it would be a screaming bargoon. At $750 it would be an excellent buy. You will see higher asking prices. This assumes that the bore is crisp, and wasn't shot with corrosive ammunition and left in a damp shed.
 
LawrenceN said:
Around here, the rifle alone would get $600 to $700. and the PH5 target signts in good condition run $250. I believe there's one on the EE for sale with the target sight, so that could be a good guideline. I had one which I sold at the Orangville gun show for &800. last year and it was an English No.4. VERY nice find indeed!
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Yes AROUND HERE. :) And that is without even knowing if the barrel is good or not. or if it matches.
 
ok thanks.. why is this gun worth money? sights or something else.. for he front sight it has a little cover on it also.. and this gun never did go back in the line or what ever to get looked over. they stamp rft or something like that if they do. this gunhas just original serial number and that's it.. like I said it needs a good cleaning.. wouldn't mind trading it for a k98
 
Its worth money cause its full wood & the sight. You may be able to trade it for an rc k98. Not all ftr's are stamped ftr & that looks like an ftr.
 
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This assumes that the bore is crisp, and wasn't shot with corrosive ammunition and left in a damp shed.
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One time I cleaned my carpets and didn't take the guns out of the house.

Let's just say Hoppe's claim that their product takes care of corrosive ammo is false trolololol

Sorry SKS :(
 
looks like its a done deal.. 300 bucks for the 303 and a semi 22 that has to be reblued....( bad shape) :) ill pick it up tomorrow and clean it take more pics next week. and post it... like I said I wouldn't mind a k98.. I looked at the bore,,, the riffling is so deep compares to my sks and svt40. holy.. looks brand new. . full of oil to :) He shot this gun 5 years ago. and has couple pouches of ammo from the war I guess... The sight has a little surface rust as you can see of the video,,, What is the best way to clean this??? without hurting the blueing.
 
Welcome to the forum. All the advice and humour you are getting is well meaning. Some of the most unselfish forum members have chimed in. Tiriaq for example (and it is not just because we have so many friend in common) is as straight and honest as anyone.

The rifle is clearly better than an average hacksawed ol' huntin' rifle. It was once chosen for its accuracy, and a man in another era had enough faith in its consistency to invest in top of the line adjustable target sights. The tin cover on the front sight is gravy, and shows the rifle was well looked after - at one time. There is even money in the wrinkly old leather sling.

However, price at the top of the market depends on condition condition and condition. Get some help and clean it carefully. Take off any rust with care, get rid of the dustbunnies and lint. Goose the bore with a proper cleaning rod, jag and solvent. Buyers will depend on you hand-on-heart stating there is no rust or pitting in the bore.
 
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