1976 Wingmaster - Bearing plate needed ?

[Megaclocker]

Just got a replacement stock for a 1976 Wingmaster.

Since the previous one was cracked near the trigger guard, I figured it was missing the bearing plate.

I got a replacement plate and now the stock sit very proud of the receiver and moves even when tightened.

Is that plate need for this 870 ?

 

[3macs1]

Not a stock I have seen before on them Where did you buy it
Yes the plate is required for a factory installation
Cheers

 

[Megaclocker]

Not a stock I have seen before on them Where did you buy it
Yes the plate is required for a factory installation
Cheers

Got it from Numrich.
It has a legit Remington grip cap and buttpad Seemed fairly old judging from some light mold being present in there. Fit seems perfect without the bearing plate ?!

 

[3macs1]

Got it from Numrich.
It has a legit Remington grip cap and buttpad Seemed fairly old judging from some light mold being present in there. Fit seems perfect without the bearing plate ?!

Ahh. Still maybe it is not factory remington wood and they designed it for no plate
I would contact Numrich and ask
Factory 70's stocks need a plate for sure or this stock may be off something in the late 2000's ( maybe they changed then I never worked on one after 2005) but those would be checkered so not one of those either IMo.
Cheers

 

[fishslinger]

So Numrich ships to Canada?

 

[REM3200]

Always have but had a high handling charge on top of shipping and that handling charge has recently been rescinded.

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[dutchhunter]

Not all stock's are made to use with the metro plate

 

[3macs1]

Not all stock's are made to use with the metro plate

Agree 100%. That is why I don't think it is a factory remington stock even though it has some remington pieces on it
Cheers

 

[madtrapper143]

A factory Remington 870 butt stock sans checkering, pressed or cut would not have a grip cap.

Darryl

 

[3macs1]

A factory Remington 870 butt stock sans checkering, pressed or cut would not have a grip cap.

Darryl

What about a police model ??

 

[enefgee]

A factory Remington 870 butt stock sans checkering, pressed or cut would not have a grip cap.

Darryl

I have a 1952 'standard' that says you're wrong. The earliest stocks were quite narrow, and feel a little 'high' in the comb, I'm wondering if this stock is one of those.

 

[3macs1]

I have a 1952 'standard' that says you're wrong. The earliest stocks were quite narrow, and feel a little 'high' in the comb, I'm wondering if this stock is one of those.

But they didnot have a cap on the grip if I recall correctly

 

[Megaclocker]

But they didnot have a cap on the grip if I recall correctly

Mine got a brown Remington pad that feels almost solid.
I'm kind of bummed out by that stock actually, kind of lame if it's some sort of replica. Quality seems much better than the Boyds stuff tho.

I've installed the butt without the plate and I can run a piece of paper all around. I guess I'll just use it and see what happens.

 

[madtrapper143]

What about a police model ??

I have handled hundreds of 870 Police guns and none had a grip cap. Early 870's used by police in the 1980's were actually Wingmasters with short barrels and did, of course, have a grip cap. BUT any 870 marked "Police Magnum" will not have grip caps.

Darryl

 

[madtrapper143]

I have a 1952 'standard' that says you're wrong. The earliest stocks were quite narrow, and feel a little 'high' in the comb, I'm wondering if this stock is one of those.

My 1953 Stoeger catalog lists an 870 "AP" with no grip cap and an 870 "ADL" with a grip cap. Yours is an oddity to be sure. I am not sure what you call a "standard" I assume you mean the AP.
Darryl

 

[patrickosuave]

I wonder if it could be a mis-labelled stock from a Sportsman 58?
They are pretty much identical except for where they meet the receiver.

 

[3macs1]

My 1953 Stoeger catalog lists an 870 "AP" with no grip cap and an 870 "ADL" with a grip cap. Yours is an oddity to be sure. I am not sure what you call a "standard" I assume you mean the AP.
Darryl

Yes but adl had a pattern also in the stock not plain
I have never seen a 870 stock plain with a grip cap

The pic doesn't even look like walnut more like a stained birch stock off an express model

To the Op is the grip cap black plastic or metal with a screw holding it or no screw

 

[Megaclocker]

Yes but adl had a pattern also in the stock not plain
I have never seen a 870 stock plain with a grip cap

The pic doesn't even look like walnut more like a stained birch stock off an express model

To the Op is the grip cap black plastic or metal with a screw holding it or no screw

Grain looks like walnut to me, there is some sort of sating finish on it. Will probably have that stripped off and use linseed oil.

I did not know this would generate such interest. I got some better pictures of the butt. If anyone could ID it, it would be awesome.

 

[madtrapper143]

I wonder if it could be a mis-labelled stock from a Sportsman 58?
They are pretty much identical except for where they meet the receiver.

All Sportsman 58's were deluxe guns and had grip caps and checkering. The basic 878 may be the stock. I think the stock has been aftermarket with added Remington features like 3 Macs noted. It is still a serviceable stock for the purpose required.

Darryl

 

[madtrapper143]

The pics look like it could be a late "Special Purpose" walnut stock re finish.

Darryl