2 inch 12 gauge shotshells versus steel plate

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Has any one tried using the so called shorty 12 gauge shells (i.e 2 inch) versus steel plate? The frame of reference would be an IDPA/IPSC style shoot with the steel plate at a 15-20m distance.
 
The pellets coming out the muzzle will behave the same whether is comes from a 2", 2 1/2", 2 3/4" or 3" shell. The deciding factors are load (weight of shot), size and speed.
 
The weight is typically 7/8 ounce and the velocity is about the same as a 2 3/4 inch shell. The question remains, how does it perform versus steel plate at 15-20 m?

canvasback said:
The pellets coming out the muzzle will behave the same whether is comes from a 2", 2 1/2", 2 3/4" or 3" shell. The deciding factors are load (weight of shot), size and speed.
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Redmaple said:
Has any one tried using the so called shorty 12 gauge shells (i.e 2 inch) versus steel plate? The frame of reference would be an IDPA/IPSC style shoot with the steel plate at a 15-20m distance.
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Redmaple, ... are we talking, slugs, buckshot or birdshot?

And what would you like to know?

  • Are they accurate enough to hit a steel plate target at that distance?
  • Will they tip over a steel plate?
  • Will they penetrate a steel plate?
  • Will they ricochet back at the shooter?
  • Will you be able to hear the impact with hearing protection?


What is the information you are seeking?
 
Redmaple said:
The weight is typically 7/8 ounce and the velocity is about the same as a 2 3/4 inch shell. The question remains, how does it perform versus steel plate at 15-20 m?
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Are you trying to kill the plate or just wound it?
Seriously, velocity is velocity and payload is payload, the gauge or shell length hardly matters. Just don't shoot steel shot at a steel plate.....
 
I use 2 and 2.5" shells loaded with 3/4 and 7/8 oz #6 for turkey and have taken coyotes at 30 yards. With proper choke you should be able to hammer steel plates just fine. The mini shells dont always cycle 100% in pumps and autos
 
Redmaple said:
The weight is typically 7/8 ounce and the velocity is about the same as a 2 3/4 inch shell. The question remains, how does it perform versus steel plate at 15-20 m?
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Exactly the same as a 2 3/4” shell loaded with the same 7/8 oz and moving at the same velocity.
 
The same mass moving at the same velocity delivers the same energy - it's simple physics. The length of the shell doesn't matter.
 
Redmaple said:
Have you tried it?
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:bangHead:

You ask an extremely vague and unclear question. A number of posters, most of whom I know have lots of experience with using 2 1/2" and 2 3/4" shells and noting what differences there may be (none), attempt to discern what you are trying to figure out and ALL offer the same response, worded in different ways. One tries to get you to clarify your question by offering suggestions as to what exactly you want to know. So far, in every response, you have ignored both the request to clarify and the 100% consensus on the likely difference between a 2" and a 2 1/2" shell.

Good luck buddy.
 
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Canvasback, it seems some people cannot be helped .... he will figure it out eventually.


Redmaple, I have a suggestion for you. Why don't you buy a box of shorty shells .... have some fun .... hit the range ... and shoot some steel targets, .... and then you let us know how it went. How does that sound?


Then we can all stop turning in circles here ....
 
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