2*Qs - 7.62x54R 174gr also Barnaul & LVE accuracy spec's

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On http://www.barnaul.co.nz/ I found this statement:
"The Russian Army have now standardized the sniper rounds at 174 gain, increasing the projectile weight from 152 grains. BARNAUL produce the 174 grain round and have now discontinued production of the 185gn FMJ projectile."

Has anyone heard anything about this? The bullet weight shows up on the home company website on http://eng.barnaulpatron.ru/production/sportshuntingcartridgescalibre/76254.html and http://eng.barnaulpatron.ru/production/sportshuntingcartridgesshooting/76254.html but there's nothing suggesting that its a service round, and I have yet to find any official service designations for either the bullet or any cartridges. I hadn't realized that heavy ball was still an actively-used service round, or even still produced - the 185gr and 200gr are for match shooting, 7N13 & 7N14 for issue in LMGs and sniper/DMR rifles (plus tracer, API, etc.), and supposedly LPS/57-N-323S and possibly 7N1 are still made for export.

While I'm at it, I'll ask if someone could explain what the accuracy standards there and on LVE's http://www.lveplant.ru/pages_en.php?id=07 and http://www.lveplant.ru/pages_en.php?id=12 descriptions mean, preferably in terms we're used to using here, but I'll deal with different statistical usages if needs be once I understand what I'm looking at? There seem to be some specifications and/or definitions that I'm not seeing.

A somewhat-separate question concerns the accuracy specifications for the 185gr "Target" and 200gr "Extra Match" rounds which I was under the impression were made by Barnaul but don't appear as such on the above websites. Does anyone have this?

Thanks,
Joel
 
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OK, Barnaul's website must have been undergoing maintenance, as the column headings are appearing, so I can at least mostly figure out what their spec's are. Still, it seems a bit loose - most service and hunting ammo there shows 10cm extreme spread at 100m, although certain types are better, ranging down to 9cm at 300m. I wonder how many rounds - 20?

Still curious about LVE and what the story is of the recent interest in 174g by several manufacturers.

Joel
 
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