2015 Shot Show: LWRCI SMG-45

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I have a chance to take a quick look at the only existing LWRCI SMG-45 prototype. First of all, this is a prototype, so production may or may not happen, and it will be some years down the road.

The LWRCI SMG-45 works on what they called an “inertia system”. It is not exactly a straight blowback that relies on the bolt mass to close on the chamber. Rather, it is described as a system where the bolt and barrel work together to create the mass, which are guided by 2 rods inside the receiver. Looking through the ventilation hole in the handguard, the barrel appears to be under spring compression. So it appears that the spring may provide part of the force that is needed to keep the bolt close during firing.

The lower receiver uses AR15 fire control part, and the current intention is to use HK UMP 45 magazines. So this could be targeted to agencies that are currently using the UMP.

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Anything new from LWRC besides this SMG. Did you manage to look at their IC PDW? Thanks for any info/pics you can swing out way.
 
This...sig mpx....scorpion evo 3.....B&T APC9. God il take any of them at this point! Need moar SMG!

(I know rcmp have had the APC9 for eons...hopfully this year they finally classify it)
 
Very Cool Gun. I really the the Ambi- controls beginning left handed. Charging handle I believe they said was reversible also.
 
I would like to see someone put out a quality smg in 10mm for canada and the possibility to convert to non restricted would be a bonus.
 
Ohhh you can just BET that one's gonna happen Greentips! I will bet a dollar to a donut on it!

I might be having a brainfart here so correct me if I'm wrong...but there hasn't been a seriously COOL SMG in .45 since the Thompson choppers of the 30's! It is time to fix that and that little beastie is a huge step in the right direction!
 
I don't know...

Ohhh you can just BET that one's gonna happen Greentips! I will bet a dollar to a donut on it!

I might be having a brainfart here so correct me if I'm wrong...but there hasn't been a seriously COOL SMG in .45 since the Thompson choppers of the 30's! It is time to fix that and that little beastie is a huge step in the right direction!

UMPs and Vectors are pretty darn cool.
 
I would like to see someone put out a quality smg in 10mm for canada and the possibility to convert to non restricted would be a bonus.

Sorry, but if a .45ACP version isn't successful, there's little hope of seeing something as obscure as 10mm being offered. There's a better chance of seeing 9mm/.40 S&W versions than 10mm IMHO.
 
I would like to see someone put out a quality smg in 10mm for canada and the possibility to convert to non restricted would be a bonus.
In your spare time maybe you could design something, just simple roller lock delayed action, I can't remember the exact name. Definitely needs to look cool to. Here's some info for blowback designs, http://www.orions-hammer.com/blowback/, says a 10mm bolt needs to weigh about 2.8 pounds, I have no idea if that is correct (his calculations could be wrong). I'll buy one ;) :popCorn:
 
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