2019 Meaford Long Range Steel Challenge

Thanks for all the replies, at least the far out targets are more the exception than the norm.
So far with my reloads i have very good SD/ES, but am not running hot loads, and have confidence up to 1100M give or take.
If i take my 308 as reference, not because it’s going supersonic that it’s accurate, there’s a velocity threshold along the way that starts to give in accuracy.

Thomas : i went 6.5x47 Lapua.
My most accurate load with 142 SMK so far is going 2725 FPS
 
MartyK2500 said:
Thanks for all the replies, at least the far out targets are more the exception than the norm.
So far with my reloads i have very good SD/ES, but am not running hot loads, and have confidence up to 1100M give or take.
If i take my 308 as reference, not because it’s going supersonic that it’s accurate, there’s a velocity threshold along the way that starts to give in accuracy.

Thomas : i went 6.5x47 Lapua.
My most accurate load with 142 SMK so far is going 2725 FPS
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SD/ES should not be your main concern in PRS, it's a lot more about positional and speed (IPSC with rifles)
 
MartyK2500 said:
Thanks for all the replies, at least the far out targets are more the exception than the norm.
So far with my reloads i have very good SD/ES, but am not running hot loads, and have confidence up to 1100M give or take.
If i take my 308 as reference, not because it’s going supersonic that it’s accurate, there’s a velocity threshold along the way that starts to give in accuracy.

Thomas : i went 6.5x47 Lapua.
My most accurate load with 142 SMK so far is going 2725 FPS
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You would do fine at 1,100+m, I think you would be surprised how capable your rifle would be past those distances.

On the plus side, most stages are 600 yards and in, so even if you didn't have confidence at distance (whether it's with your rifle and/or confidence in your own abilities), it really wouldn't be a big handicap at a PRS match.
 
More specifically with Meaford, you have to know the wind to do well. Having a tight ES is good and all, but it just means you will have a very nice group off in the grass, where you can’t see where it’s landing.
 
TRDJer said:
More specifically with Meaford, you have to know the wind to do well. Having a tight ES is good and all, but it just means you will have a very nice group off in the grass, where you can’t see where it’s landing.
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Yes wind is a huge one,
Still have a hard time, in my 900M experience, if i feel something change and do nothing about it, pretty much will equate in a miss.


kthomas said:
You would do fine at 1,100+m, I think you would be surprised how capable your rifle would be past those distances.

On the plus side, most stages are 600 yards and in, so even if you didn't have confidence at distance (whether it's with your rifle and/or confidence in your own abilities), it really wouldn't be a big handicap at a PRS match.
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The reason for confidence (or not) so far is a certain bullet speed.
In my 24’’ 308, once i hit a certain velocity it doesn’t group well anymore, 700M is fine but 800M not so much,
In my 26’’ 308 same thing, but that one i get good groups at 800M and not so much at 900M (velocities of 900M are about the same as my 24’’ at 800M).

With my ballistic app, i hit this velocity with my 6.5x47 at the 1100M mark, and thats with a 2725fps speed leaving the barrel.
It’s the same bullet construction as 2 others so i suspect the same, as in not liking to get too close to the subsonic area.


Arrowhead said:
SD/ES should not be your main concern in PRS, it's a lot more about positional and speed (IPSC with rifles)
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I shot IPSC and still shoot IPSC for 7 years now,
Although there was a time where i was more competitive, still enjoy it a lot.
 
Bottom line, go shoot it. Guys on the line will help you with wind calls. Go have fun with what you have. You will find out quickly what you need to adjust / change.
YOU WILL MAKE HITS! Be open minded and ask questions. No one will laugh at you, just don't give up.
IMPACT!!!!!!!!!!!
SRSA311
 
MartyK2500, I think you would really benefit from some long range experience with your cartridges. Because your .308 didn't group past a certain distance at a certain velocity, doesn't mean that a 6.5 shooting a completely different projectile is going to behave the exact same way. If you have the ability to take a course, C/S-66 would be the outfit that I would recommend in Canada.

I've taken 6.5 creedmoor out to a mile on a few occasions with factory ammo, with a lot of success on 1-2 MOA targets. You don't need speed, you need consistency in your velocity, which you state you have.

There's even a certain top level PRS/NRL shooter that purposely shoots his 6BRX at slow velocities (in the 2700's fps if I remember correctly) in order to better spot trace. Shooting his rounds that slow hasn't hurt him, he's right at the top of the national standings.

Like others have said, just get out and shoot. No one is ever "ready" for their first match. Those who spend years and years waiting until they are "ready" to attend their first PRS match are miles behind those that just get out and shoot it. If you want to shoot PRS, the best thing to do is quit with the excuses and just go out and do it.
 
MartyK2500 said:
Thanks for all the replies, at least the far out targets are more the exception than the norm.
So far with my reloads i have very good SD/ES, but am not running hot loads, and have confidence up to 1100M give or take.
If i take my 308 as reference, not because it’s going supersonic that it’s accurate, there’s a velocity threshold along the way that starts to give in accuracy.

Thomas : i went 6.5x47 Lapua.
My most accurate load with 142 SMK so far is going 2725 FPS
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I've shot 5 matches in my life... placed in the top 5 in 3 of them without ever running my load over a chronograph. Pick a load that shoots, get out and get some data on it (IE: true your ballistic calculator to real world drops). You can figure out your velocity pretty close with this method if you have ranges out to 1000 yds.

I made up a bunch of charts in JBM (free online) based on Density altitude in 1000ft increments then went and shot matches. I'd ask someone with a Kestrel every now and then what the DA was and reference my charts for the ranges in the match book.

Your first matches will be learning experiences. You will shoot in positions and at targets you never have before. But, there will always be shooters there to help you, loan you gear, and give you their wind calls when you let them know you've never shot a match before!

Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions!
 
I am definitely IN for this,
I shot IPSC to a certain level for more than a few years, so I believe I have the mental pressure side of things worked out.

Unfortunately PRS is almost non-existent in Ottawa (unless you count rimfire which I don't care much for at the moment),
Being that I need long treks to go to matches, i'll be limited to 3-4 matches in 2020, i'll try to make them the best learning experience I can!
 
MartyK2500 said:
I am definitely IN for this,
I shot IPSC to a certain level for more than a few years, so I believe I have the mental pressure side of things worked out.

Unfortunately PRS is almost non-existent in Ottawa (unless you count rimfire which I don't care much for at the moment),
Being that I need long treks to go to matches, i'll be limited to 3-4 matches in 2020, i'll try to make them the best learning experience I can!
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Shoot the Petawawa PRS club matches. Great for your 308 and pretty close to Ottawa.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1826684-Petawawa-PRS-One-day-club-matches
 
MartyK2500 said:
Unfortunately PRS is almost non-existent in Ottawa (unless you count rimfire which I don't care much for at the moment)
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You should re-consider the rimfire matches. They are quick, fun and cheap, and an excellent way to practice for the centerfire version. Fundamentals don't care about your cartridge.
 
Alpheus said:
You should re-consider the rimfire matches. They are quick, fun and cheap, and an excellent way to practice for the centerfire version. Fundamentals don't care about your cartridge.
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I agree
steering the small, lightweight, slow moving .22 rimfire bullet in the wind at small targets out to 300 yards is excellent practice that’s much cheaper, can be done just about anywhere and skills are transferable to improve your PRS game
 
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