.204 Maximum Charge Won't Fit in Case...?

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I'm fairly new to reloading and have had difficulty finding powders and bullets as well as data to match but did come across some H4895 that fits all my applications (including the .204) so I bought some to get started. Also found some 32gr HDY VMAX bullets and Hodgdon data so everything looked good. I'm using new Winchester cases which I ran through the resizer anyway because some of the necks had little dings in them. I wanted to make sure they were perfect.

Heres' Hodgdon's data:
32 GR. HDY V-MAX H4895 .204" 2.250" 27.0 3669 40,500 PSI 29.0C 3980 51,100 PSI

The recommended starting point is 27.0gr and the max is a compressed 29.0gr charge. I read this article (http://www.reloadbench.com/gloss/compress.html) on compressed charges and it says that a charge is acceptably compressed so long as the bullet still seats to proper depth (2.250") and does not creep forward over a period of 24hrs. In my case, all loads are at the same seating depth that they were 2 days ago when I loaded them. None have been fired yet.

I have loaded groups of 27.0gr, 27.3, 27.6, 27.9, 28.2 and 28.5 but nothing past that. You see, 28.5 fills the case to the brim. This makes me worry that my Lee powder measure is not functioning properly, or that the Winchester cases simply don't hold as much as others might?

I am not bent on getting the maximum load in the case, I'm just concerned that I've overlooked something. If Hodgdon says that 29.0 grains is the acceptable limit, but I can't fit that much in my case, something is out of whack.

Any insight you have would be appreciated!
 
Did the book state they were also using win brass? For compressed loads some people use a drop tube to let gravity help settle a load more evenly.I'd go to the range with what you have and start by shooting the lowest powered loads and shoot for groups working your way up .Along the way look for preasure signs on the cases.Ringed or rippled primers for one and difficulty with extraction.There may only be 50fps or less between their MAX and what you've loaded..............Harold
 
If you are using a Powder Dumper then you may have issues getting it all in the case that way. Dump the powder into your scale pan and then use your funnel, pouring slowly into the funnel so that the powder goes down in a "toilet flush" fashion. This will aloow the powder to settle into the case better.

If you are using max loads then I would suggest you weigh each powder load anyway.
 
How long are your cases? The trim-to length is 1.840". If they're shorter than that, you'll have issues.
The load will compress when you seat the bullet. Compressed loads are nothing to worry about.
"...loaded groups of..." Going up by half a grain is enough. Then, when you have the most accurate load, you can go back to the previous charge and work up by 1/10ths.
 
Switch to a ball powder... do yourself a favour. I strongly suggest Hodgdon BL-C2. Not only does this give you maximum velocity in the 204 case, it measures like a dream. Ball powders are most forgiving in volumetric measuring and on average I am less that .2 grains apart.
 
I love H4895 in my 204. I use Hornady brass and have used 28 grs with 35 gr Berger bullets and don't remember it being full to the top of the case but to the bottom of the neck. I would just double check your scale to be safe. H4895 is a favorite among the 204 crowd.
Good luck.
 
This makes me worry that my Lee powder measure is not functioning properly, or that the Winchester cases simply don't hold as much as others might?

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:confused: Are you not weighing your powder with a scale? If you're expecting consitent charges (typical of a varmint rig) from a powder measure, I think you'll be disappointed. I have a Lee powder measure that I use to throw a charge that just barely tips the beam on my scale, and I use a powder trickler to top it up. However I would never trust volumetric measuring alone, at least not on extruded powder. If I tap the measure on the side while throwing a charge it'll be a few grains heavier.
 
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