209 Primers

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Im not into reloading but use the 209's in my ml.Was wondering if they make a 209 magnum ?.I know they do rifle primers in both standard and magnum so thought they might do the same for shotgun primers ?.
I'm asking this as if they do make them I would try them in my ml.

Thanks, 88
 
Some brands of 209 primers would be hotter than others. Most 209's are already too hot for ML use, but they are handy, so that is what manufacturers use for ignition. 209's can actually move the charge and bullet in the barrel before igniting the powder, causing eradic pressures. Not sure if you want to exaggerate that any more with a hotter primer...

If you are having ignition problems and are using pellets, try switching to loose powder. If you are already using loose powder, try another brand. I use a conversion to allow small rifle primers to be used, which are not as hot as 209 primers...

What ML do you have?
 
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There are no 209 "magnum" primers because it is a shotgun primer. Even so called magnum shotgun shells still use the same primers.

As Blargon mentioned though, you would not want to use a 209magnum primer in your Muzzle-loader even if one was available. The force of the primer going off can and does push pellet charges away from the firing port before ignition. This actually decreases your velocity as some of the energy from the charge's ignition goes backwards into the gap you just created. A magnum primer would make the problem even worse.

So if your intent is higher velocity or faster ignition, magnum primers would be counter-productive. If you are having problems with ignition consistency, follow Blargon's suggestions & try different powders. I would also suggest trying muzzle-loader specific primers. I know they are out there, but I can't for the life of me remember the number.

Hope this helps, cheers!

Tim H
 
CCI marketed a 209M primer a while back, not sure if they still do, they called it a magnum primer for igniting some powders that were not as easy to ignite. The problem was that folks had to use totally diff. shotshell reloading data and special data had to be developed or dangerous pressure levels developed. I don't know if they still market them and Fed. 209 were considered the hottest of the rest.
 
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CCI209M is still available at LeBarons. Federal 209A is also considered a Magnum or "hot" primer. The Federal primers can be difficult to find, in Ontario anyway but you can get them in the US at Gander Mountain. At least that is where I bought mine.

Dave
 
Magnum 209's will definitely light your powder, but this excess energy may cause other issues like flyers, blow back, crud ring, etc.
 
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