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Well, if it makes you feel any better, it's not just Hornady!
As far as I know, no one includes the bushings in their bushing dies.
I usually buy a few sizes with each die set, especially if I'm playing with different bullets.
X-reload has been my go to for bushings
As far as I know, no one includes the bushings in their bushing dies.
I usually buy a few sizes with each die set, especially if I'm playing with different bullets.
X-reload has been my go to for bushings
if they included a bushing, you would say it is the wrong size, if they included a set, you would say too expensive, I only use a couple, so, order the size you need. any bushing die description I,ve seen on line tells you to order bushings sizes seperate.
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you can't buy it with an included bushing because you need to figure out what you need after you buy the projectiles and after you measure the brass...
Its a lot of work to use bushings dies, as you often have to change the bushings as the brass stretches.
I used them on .338LM, i would never bother on anything like .308 unless i was shooting F class.
nogood for semis autos...as anything less then .2 thou tension won't take the loading. anything more then 1 or 2 though defeats the purpose of using the die.
Its a lot of work to use bushings dies, as you often have to change the bushings as the brass stretches.
I used them on .338LM, i would never bother on anything like .308 unless i was shooting F class.
nogood for semis autos...as anything less then .2 thou tension won't take the loading. anything more then 1 or 2 though defeats the purpose of using the die.
Not just Hornady. Whidden dies also don't come with a bushing, and it either doesn't say anywhere when you buy them, or maybe it says it somewhere hidden in small print. Yes I agree, I just went through this, they should make it much more obvious to the customer.
Forster gives you 3 bushings with them, or, you can buy without ( and they do not make an FLS bushing die, neck only). But, best be checking what the brass you want to use actually is for an OD, with a bullet in it, as they may not be right for your brass. If you turn it, have to adjust to suit, or buy a different brass brand, may well need different bushing again. I checked 4 brands of factory 6.5CM ammo, needed a surprising spread of bushing sizes to cover those.
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Not sure I follow how supplying a bushing based on the custom grade size would work - the custom grade sizes the neck from the inside with the expander - to the appropriate size to give bullet pull tension - does not depend on neck thickness, since the neck sizing area above the expander squishes all necks too small - which are then opened up as the expander is pulled through the undersized neck. The bushing dies size the outside of the neck - is ALL about the case neck wall thickness to establish bullet pull tension - I think they are almost "opposite" approaches to the issue - can not see how can interchange dimensions???
I never owned any bushing dies - I suspect they are part of a system that starts with precisely reamed chamber neck - known dimension to probably 4 decimal places, then very specific turned case neck wall thickness, then known bullet diameter, to end up with about .002" bullet pull, with the loaded case giving minimal clearance in the neck of the chamber - just enough to release the bullet. From the "Houston Warehouse" experiments, the main guy was reloading his brass without resizing - that is how close he had those things fitting - of course was not a store-bought rifle, at all.
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What would be the point of this? The entire purpose of a bushing die is to control neck tension. Including a bushing that reduces neck diameter to the same dimension as a standard full length sizing die would be foolish.
Whidden will sell you any bushing you wish. LE Wilson will make you any bushing you wish.
