22-250 long range?
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rnbra-shooter
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Do you mean a regular slow-twist .22-250 firing varmint bullets?
(fast-twist .22-250's shoot 75+ grain match bullets very well out to 1000 yards and beyond)
(fast-twist .22-250's shoot 75+ grain match bullets very well out to 1000 yards and beyond)
HighTeckRedNeck
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- Saskatoon, SK
I wanted to get a 1-8" 22-250, I really like my tikka varmit 22-250 with 1-14 so I was wondering about getting a tikka varmit 1-8" 223 reamed out to 22-250, but i'm not sure it would be worth upgrading to 22-250 over 223 for the extra cost. Anyone else have any thoughts on this.
I'm thinking of picking up a 12lrpv in 22-250 with a 1:9 twist. Think that's fast enough?
HighTeckRedNeck
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Well I already have one in 22-250 so I could just use that bolt and mag, prob would be shooting them both at the exact same time, but does anyone know what a conversion like that would cost?
Then you would end up with two guns, of which you can only use one at a time, and one useless bolt and magazine as leftovers. If I wanted a 1 in 8" 22-250, I would just rebarrel the 22-250. A rebarrel would be cheaper than buying a complete 223 rifle and then paying to rechamber it.
rnbra-shooter
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- New Brunswick
My .22-250 is a 1-9" twist Savage (it used to be a .223). It is able to shoot Sierra 80s; I have not tried the Berger 80VLD, Berger 82BT etc so I don't have any info there.
This would involve taking the .223/1-8" barrel off of your Tikka, putting it in a lathe and running a .22-250 reamer into the existing .223 chamber, then screwing it back on to the receiver. You would be supplying a .22-250 bolt and magazine from your other rifle. This should be no more than a two hour job, so you really ought to be able to get it done for under $200.
I shoot my 22-250 A.I. out to 800 yards all the time at plates and other targets. I have taken a few coyotes out past 600yards. It has a 1-8 twist and shoots 80gr vlds at 3350 fps. It is not so much the gun that is the problem on coyotes at long range but finding a range finder that can range a coyote out past 600 yards. I find my lica 1200 is good but if the light is not right I find I can't always range a coyote past 600 yards. If you can't be sure of the range it is just luck if you hit anything out that far. At long distance its all about knowing the range.
Are the VLDs penetrating and exploding? I just shot a coyote with my 6.5 and 140 gr VLD hit him in the rear leg and it just exploded.
The VLDs are not a bullet to use if you are wanting the fur from a coyote. I use some 77gr noslers as well and they are a little better. I shoot deer with the vlds and they do a very good job just don't hit any part you might want to eat. They go in and blowup, the Deer go down right now. (here in MB we can use a 22 cal on deer). I just shot a coyote at 590 with a 140 VLD out of my 6.5x55 improved and at that distance it did not blowup that badly ( still a big hole), but in closer they tend to make even more of a mess on a coyote.
I don't know if it's legal to use but both Hornady and Sierra sell a 6mm 90 FMJ designed expressly for pelt hunters.
I asked if these bullets were legal for hunting during my hunting safety course and everyone freaked out!
Alex
I asked if these bullets were legal for hunting during my hunting safety course and everyone freaked out!
Alex
I'm gearing up a 1/7" twist 30" on a 700 rem. Hoping to use 90grn bergers. I hope I can still shoot well enough to match the potential of this combo. I've been away from the sport for about 20 years and my reloading manuals are outdated so I'm looking for 22/250 loading data for heavy bullets. If the 90s will stand up to 3100fps or so they should shoot well at long range
Mystic Precision
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- Summerland, BC
Remember that Berger VLD's use a thin jacket so in a barrel too long, failure can occur if the core is overheated.
I have shot 90gr VLD's to just under 3200fps trying to blow them up. This was in a 7 twist McGowen at 26" I think. Didn't loose a bullet. Dissapointing but fun all the same.
I have pushed the Berger 90gr BT's to 1500ish yds without issue out of a 223 going 2800fps. A 22-250 should just do it faster.
Jerry
I have shot 90gr VLD's to just under 3200fps trying to blow them up. This was in a 7 twist McGowen at 26" I think. Didn't loose a bullet. Dissapointing but fun all the same.
I have pushed the Berger 90gr BT's to 1500ish yds without issue out of a 223 going 2800fps. A 22-250 should just do it faster.
Jerry
For many years, I could only afford ONE precision rifle rig. It had to do any sniper matches with the ORA at Base Borden, then it had to come out and hunt groundhogs and be able to be carried while walking all over the hayfields... read: a lighter barrel (medium profile. This required a Winchester Model 70 Coyote rifle in .223 Rem that came with a 9" twist barrel, it loved the 75 grain Amax bullets coming out at about 2950 fps give or take. I killed many, many groundhogs and gophers with it and then shot a couple of NSCC matches in Connaught Ranges with the DCRA. I never felt outgunned shooting against some of the best shooters in the country (including many Police and Military snipers). Mind you I had to be careful with my wind calls, but it was all good learning experience.
Hey, my 13 year old son shot this rifle in a couple of Service Rifle match with the ORA at Mons Range several times. He just shot a whack of 68 gr Hornady HPBT bullets with great results at 200, 300, and 500 yards. He could stuff 7 rounds in the magazine and 1 in the chamber. For the 30 second rapid fire strings of match 3, 7, and 11, he was able to get off 7 to 8 rounds at a time. He loved this rifle and shooting the matches 1 to 12. For a scope, we used a Tasco Varmint 3.5 x 10 x 40mm with cheap target knobs. The scope cost me all of $ 100 back then. It worked for all the years we owned it. What a surprise....
Fast forward 10 years and now i'm shooting a .260 Rem dedicated to Precision Rifle matches and a separate .22-250 M700 SPS DM for hunting varmints (groundhogs and coyotes).
Now oddly enough, my M700 .260 Rem that loves the 139 gr Lapua Scenars is also set up with a .22-250 switch barrel for hunting groundhogs. It was taken off my SPS .223 Tactical 9" twist M700 and then rechambered by Doug at Ellwood Epps. Strangely enough this .22-250 barrel does not like the 75 gr Hornady AMax bullets, but the 68 and 69 grain bullets should have no trouble whatsoever.
Yup, the .223 can be a great rifle for LR shooting but again, the laws of physics ain't on your side since the longer any bullet hangs in the air (to the target) the more the wind (or other external variables) act on it. I will say that I don't have any regrets doing what I did by shooting the .223 up to 800m over the years. It was a great learning curve and whether I like it or not, I can speak with great authority and experience now...
Hope this helps fuel the LR addiction!
Barney
Hey, my 13 year old son shot this rifle in a couple of Service Rifle match with the ORA at Mons Range several times. He just shot a whack of 68 gr Hornady HPBT bullets with great results at 200, 300, and 500 yards. He could stuff 7 rounds in the magazine and 1 in the chamber. For the 30 second rapid fire strings of match 3, 7, and 11, he was able to get off 7 to 8 rounds at a time. He loved this rifle and shooting the matches 1 to 12. For a scope, we used a Tasco Varmint 3.5 x 10 x 40mm with cheap target knobs. The scope cost me all of $ 100 back then. It worked for all the years we owned it. What a surprise....
Fast forward 10 years and now i'm shooting a .260 Rem dedicated to Precision Rifle matches and a separate .22-250 M700 SPS DM for hunting varmints (groundhogs and coyotes).
Now oddly enough, my M700 .260 Rem that loves the 139 gr Lapua Scenars is also set up with a .22-250 switch barrel for hunting groundhogs. It was taken off my SPS .223 Tactical 9" twist M700 and then rechambered by Doug at Ellwood Epps. Strangely enough this .22-250 barrel does not like the 75 gr Hornady AMax bullets, but the 68 and 69 grain bullets should have no trouble whatsoever.
Yup, the .223 can be a great rifle for LR shooting but again, the laws of physics ain't on your side since the longer any bullet hangs in the air (to the target) the more the wind (or other external variables) act on it. I will say that I don't have any regrets doing what I did by shooting the .223 up to 800m over the years. It was a great learning curve and whether I like it or not, I can speak with great authority and experience now...
Hope this helps fuel the LR addiction!
Barney
I have a 1/8 twist that I have shot out to 2000 yards. I made a custom base to get the elevation. I shoot the 80 grain serrias. At 2000 yards I was shooting a 55 gallon drum and it would go thru the front of the drum and stick into the back or dent the back and fall to the bottom. Allot of fun and pretty cheap to shoot. I did hit a prarie dog at 1310 yards with it.
