22-250 Twist

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The twist in a Remington 22-250 is 1 in 14, with the exception of the Predator which is 1 in 9 1/8th. Many 22-250's will not stabilize bullets over 60 grains, yet a faster twist will stabilize lighter bullets. With the interest in heavier bullets for long range, why does Remington continue to use the 1 in 14 twist? I was thinking of getting a new 22-250 but I want a faster twist, say 1 in 12. How fast a twist could I put into a 22-250? Are there any alternatives? Maybe I should keep the one I have a rebarrel it.
During the check of twists, I see their 243's are 1 in 9 1/8 which probably explains why I got such good accuracy with the 105 grain Hornady A-Max.
Also the Model 5 has a 1 in 16 twist, so what was the wisdon using a 1 in 14 1/2 in the 504?
To many questions and so few reasonable answers . . .
 
If you want to run heavier bullets as in the 75 and 80 grain A-Max's, go with an 8 twist.

Why Remington doesn't get into the 21st century with their centerfire 22 twists, I'll never know. I'd buy another 223 from them if it came with an 8 twist. But a 12? There's more to life than 50 grainers...
 
all Rem 700's & Model Sevens in 22-250 are 1-14" twist (Even the M7 predator). 22-250 are used for varmints for the most part, so using a 14 twist will give ideal results with bullets from 40-60 grain unless its an all copper 53 gr TSX which I hear is spotty for stability in a 14 twist '250
 
How heavy do you want to go? 55gr is fine in a 1in14 are you looking to use heavier? Just keep an eye on longer bullets try to use Flat Base bullets.....

Whats long a distance? 200yds? 300yds? maybe more?.... I have taken shots on windy days out to 300yds with not much wind drift using factory 55gr sp ammo from Federal.

if you already have a .243 why the need to use .243 weighted bullets in a .22-250? just use the .243........
 
I am currently lucky with the accuracy from my 22-250 using 60 grain Sierra HP. In a 300 yard match a few years ago I had a .5421 MoA. In a sniper match even longer ago at 400 there were 20 in the 10 ring. That was when I could still seat the bullets near the lands. Now I would have maybe 1/8 inch bite seating to the lands. I would like to be able to go to 69's or 75's, but would also like to assume the 60's would still work. Not all 1 in 14's will keep the 60's in check.
 
all Rem 700's & Model Sevens in 22-250 are 1-14" twist (Even the M7 predator). 22-250 are used for varmints for the most part, so using a 14 twist will give ideal results with bullets from 40-60 grain unless its an all copper 53 gr TSX which I hear is spotty for stability in a 14 twist '250

What Remington isn't smart enough to figure out is that an 8 twist will also stack 40 and 50 grainers, and you still have the option of running the heavyweights.
 
the new VTR has a 1-9 twist (in 223)

for the record, if I was having a 22-250 built, it would have a 8ish twist too
 
when I was shopping for my 22-250 I was thinking about this very issue.

I was contemplating getting a stevens 200 in 223, swapping the bolt head and rechambering it to 22-250 so I would have a faster twist.

Never did it, just bought a stevens 200 in 22-250 and shoot 50grn Noslers, works fine

But I think savage uses a 1 in 12 twist for the 22-250
 
The new Savage's might be 1:12, but the older ones are 1:14. I just loaded some 53 gr TSX's for a fellow I work with who has a Savage 110 22-250. I thought the velocity might make up for the 1:14, nope. The bullet holes are elongated, and the target looked more like it was hit with a shotgun pattern than a rifle group. Glad I only loaded a few of them to make sure first.
 
The new Savage's might be 1:12, but the older ones are 1:14. I just loaded some 53 gr TSX's for a fellow I work with who has a Savage 110 22-250. I thought the velocity might make up for the 1:14, nope. The bullet holes are elongated, and the target looked more like it was hit with a shotgun pattern than a rifle group. Glad I only loaded a few of them to make sure first.

Will the newer 1:12's stabilze the 53 TSX's? I'm kind of agonizing over this same dilemma right now for a .22 centerfire. Do I go .223 or 22-250...locally the 22-250 ammo is much easier to find and cheaper, but I can only get up to 55's without reloading. And I'd sure like to be able to load some TSX's. Would the 223 with TSX's make for more killing power than a faster 22-250 with a regular hollow point? Hmm...I;ve got no experience with the little rifles and these are the things that have me on the fence.
 
the 53gr should be fine in a 1-12 twist and the TSX's seem to work better the faster they go so if its between the .223 and .22-250 then the .22-250 should be your choice.
 
Would the 223 with TSX's make for more killing power than a faster 22-250 with a regular hollow point?

absolutely. A regular varmint hollowpoint, no matter how fast you push it to give it more "energy", will not hold a candle to the deep penetration and controlled expansion of a Barnes TSX fired from a smaller cartridge. The 1-12 twist in 223 is proven to shoot the 53 gr TSX so the 22-250 with the same twist will do as well or better with it. For 1-14 twist 22-250s, Barnes made the 45 gr TSX which should work very well @ 4000+ fps. I killed a deer with that bullet @ 3280 fps in a 221 Fireball, so I speculate it will work in a '250 ;)
 
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