22 air gun - Recommendations?

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I'd like an air gun for plinking around the acreage, exterminating gophers, starlings, and other pesky varmits.

To actually kill the varmit, and not just educate it to hide when I come around toting the airgun, I think the heavier, harder-hitting 22 cal pellet would have a great advantage over 177.

I can't use rimfire around here, neighbours may call the authorities if I burn powder behind a projectile... :(

I know if I acquire something capable of > 495 fps, I have to use my PAL, and I'm ok with that.

I have a Crosman 2289, but its only a couple years (off warranty) and less than 1 can of pellets old, and the barrel has come loose in the plastic clips that hold it to the receiver, and more air leaks out than launches the pellet. I know I could probably get parts for the 2289, but a gun held together by plastic parts and modified to Canadian-spec is not what I want. When shooting the 2289, I can see the pellet travel, and observe about 4" of arc in a 5 yard shot. If someone knows how to make the 2289 better - with respect to the 495 fps AND the wobbly build of the barrel to the gun - I'd be interested in fixing and modding it. If fixing / modding the 2289 gets me over 495, I would do the appropriate anal declarations to the CFC.

I don't know much about airguns, other than I don't want something into which I have to put CO2 cartridges, canned nitrogen, or anything more complicated than some pumping with my arms. That narrows it down to either spring piston (single-pump cocking) or pump-up (one to ten pumps depending on how hard you want to shoot). From what I understand, the single pump units kick backwards and limit the scope I can use to one thats built for reverse recoil.

Anyways, any recommendations or advice is welcome.

And if you have something to sell - trade - otherwise part with, please send me a PM.

Thanks, Jiggs.
 
You can't go wrong with a Weihrauch.The post below yours is touting a HW50 in .22.It is a great choice for the money.I use a HW80 in .177 and have downed many pests with it.These are amazing quality and will last a lifetime.
 
I'll vote for one of the excellent BAM rifles (got mine, a B30 from airgunsource). They have several models of high power springers in .22 that would be perfect. BAM is a Chinese make that produces clones of high end Eurpoean air rifles.
 
BAM XS-B21 or XS-B26

Anyone have either?

Those are on my shortlist from Airgun Source. They don't list a Weihrauch.

The $$ fo the BAMs are where I want to be < $200...

Thanks, Jiggs
 
Beeman R series is the same as Weihrauch example R1 -HW80 with slightly different stocks.The cheaper Beemans are Chinese and Spanish stuff.IZH Baikal makes a .22 in the 750fps range that has had good ratings as well[Mp513M] for $250 from D+L in BC.You won't be getting a HW or beeman for $200......................Harold
 
jiggseob said:
Anyone have either?

Those are on my shortlist from Airgun Source. They don't list a Weihrauch.

The $$ fo the BAMs are where I want to be < $200...

Thanks, Jiggs
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http://###.specialtyshootingsportsoutdoors.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=122
Change the x's to w's and check out this site for Weihrauch's.They are many times better than the oriental stuff.Mine is over 30 years old and still shoots like new.
 
Actually the B21 is a knock off of the Diana 48 and the B26 is a knock off of the Beeman R9 I think. I have the B30 which is similar to the B21 except the barrel is blued rather than parkerized, it has fibre optic sights and a shorter barrel. I think the mechanics are the same as the B21, can't beat it for the price. I think the B26 will be a lighter rifle to handle if that makes a difference, the B30 (and by default the B21) is quite heavy.
 
I'm thinking of an hw97 at some point and looked that the Specialty Shooting SportsOutdoors site mentionned above....couldn't help noticing that they "test" fire all the airguns before shipping. I have mixed feelings about this sort of process.

When I see this I am paranoid enough to wonder if they hang on to the real "tack drivers" for themselves.... I certainly appreciate them being upfront about this (although it is hard to hide in some cases) what do others think about this sort of "quality assurance"
 
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When I see this I am paranoid enough to wonder if they hang on to the real "tack drivers" for themselves.... I certainly appreciate them being upfront about this (although it is hard to hide in some cases) what do others think about this sort of "quality assurance"
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Having been in the store a number of times before the move am pretty comfortable with their ethics.

Have you come across many stores that hold onto their inventory rather than sell it (seems to be a bad business model)? How many of each model do they hang on to? (50 different models, hang on to 50, 100, 150 airguns... ?). If hang on to the 3 best that they ever came across (so hang onto say 150 airguns for themselves), 4th, 5th, 6th best of that model no good? Am just not understanding the issue.

Think the service is offered so that when you get your rifle you know wont be BS to put up with such as a manufacturing defect or other issue (unrelated to the dealer) that would otherwise require time/warranty claim to resolve.
 
Have you come across many stores that hold onto their inventory rather than sell it
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Actually no - don't think so ... BUT I have CERTAINLY been in stores that have tried to pawn off demo or returned stock as new. I have seen high end binoculars with thumb prints on the oculars and Leitz lens with obvious signs of "previous use" being represented as new. My preference when paying a substantial price for a high end product is to depend on the ethics and QA of the factory rather than the staff of a retail outlet who may (or may not) know what they are doing. That's just me. I guess I have seen to many botched scope mounting jobs with buggered threads and various other signs of poor handling by "informed helpful store staff" to have a lot of confidence in this sort of predelivery service. When the ticket is well north of $500 .. I prefer my goods to come sealed and in their original factory wrap unmolested by this sort of service. Looks like other folks are good with it ... so to each his (or her) own.
 
Specialty Shooting Sports enjoys and excellent reputation in the airgun community. I wouldn't even worry about them trying to sell anything that was second rate, especially a Weirauch. Go ahead order it, I'm sure you'll be impressed. I used to have an HW30, which is their "entry level" rifle and it was really nice.
 
Specialty Shooting Sport's "inspection, test and chrono-report"

I initially have a positive reaction to that statement. If they go thru 100 air rifles, and keep the best three for themselves, I'm a bit covetous of one of the three, but otherwise fine with the process. I would hope that if I went to a range and used a chronograph on the one I bought, I'd be able to come close to duplicating the "reported" result.

I'd rather subject myself to having the cream of the crop skimmed off, than buy a "dud" that one would hope would get filtered out by this process. The best way to deal with warranty returns is NEVER to sell them in the first place.

Having said all that, the new-out-of-box chrono result is only part of the picture. What will it be like after 1000 or 2000 or more shots?

I'd like to qualify the statement that "Specialty Shooting Sports enjoys an excellent reputation in the airgun community". I have no experience with them. In general, no organization just "enjoys" a good reputation, they EARN it, one customer, one well-supported sale at a time. If Specialty Shooting Sports has a good reputation, its not something that happened by accident. Among sports people, the Wal-Marts and box stores quickly filter themselves out, and the places that are staffed by real freaks (for lack of a better description) in the various aspects of the sport rise to the top.

For my purchase, I want to pay a bit more to buy from a "freak" that believes in what he/she takes from their rack and puts in my hand.

Just my humble opinion.

Jiggs.
 
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