22 AMMO and past experiences, good/bad

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So I wanted to start a thread covering differing rimfire rounds that people have tried and liked or disliked, help prevent people from purchasing bad quality rounds or help guide in the right direction. Note gun was thoroughly cleaned before different round used (10/22 LR). Since 22's are picky with the ammo you feed them (atleast my guns are) hope this will help others.


Winchester high velocity: excellent price, paid $19 for 500, no duds every round was shot, I did not like the hollow point the tips kept getting smooshed against the bottom of the barrel, round burned pretty clean .

Remington Thunderbolts: decent price, paid $22 for 500, a lot of duds, burned very dirty all the powder did not burn, solid tip was better then the hollow point.

Remington Yellow jacket: price was a bit expensive for the quality, $9 dollars for 100, burned very dirty, did not like the hollow point, smooshed against bottom of the barrel, no duds at all

CCI Stinger: price was a bit steep 8 dollars for 50, excellent round, led sat firmly without wobble in the case, solid point had no problems, no duds, burned really clean, hard hitting round. Worth paying more money for

If others have tested other rounds or the same rounds feel free to add to this.
 
Like the Winchester line up the most. 333s are favourite. Quite accurate and cleanest burning..did not foul the semi auto in 550 rounds.Not a problem in the bolts.

Remington...they would have to pay me to shoot it...terrible FTF and talk about dirty...UGH...Most inaccurate of all

American eagle...would not cycle good in my semis..quite a few FTF but residue was a factor.

High velocity ammo seems to work the best but pricing is too high for the rewards.
 
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Here's my experience, but your results may vary due to the gun:

Winchester 333 - Clean, accurate, reliable, cheap. Cycles perfectly in my MKIII. Bulk high velocity doesn't get much better than this.

Lapua Standard + - Moderately priced good quality target ammo. No fliers (yet) and I get sub 1" groups at 100 yds with my bench rifle.

Fiocchi Standard - Good, accurate, consistent and cheap. This is all I use for 50 yd shooting in my Savage BV.

Eley Sport - Good target ammo but hard to find. My 10/22 really liked it. For longer range use I've switched to Lapua.

American Eagle - Good, accurate, fairly cheap. I used to use this in my MKIII until I found that 333 was easier to find. The solid point is good if your gun hiccups on HP.

Winchester Wildcat - Don't know if they're still making this. Good bulk ammo that worked in all of my guns but very dirty.

Remington Target - Cannot get consistent results with this in any of my .22s. 50 yd groups were in the 3" range. I only use it for throw away rounds to warm up the barrel.
 
A friend and I went out a few weeks back and in 2 days of 8 hours shooting in the same 10 acres, with only regular Winchester ammo and .22s. we racked up over 1200 gophers. No need for super ammo...the gophers don't know what ammo hits them...just need a good rifle and eye. Most shots were within 100 yards or less. What a great time.

My son and I are headed out there again next weekend as the farmer asked us out as often as we can make it....There is hardly any grass for his horses as the terrific plague of gophers has eaten most to the ground. Gunna take over 10 grand of .22 ammo this time as we are staying as guests for a week. Of course gunna try out the .223 at some long ones.
 
Out of a savage Mark IIG, and Mossberg 702

Winchester dynapoints - About 10 duds per box, inaccurate, dirty.

CCI Blazer - Best accuracy I've had, no duds out of 2000+ rounds fired, clean. Not good for gophers, solid bullet

Remington Yellow jackets - Reasonably Accurate, doesn't feed as smooth as other .22, not filthy like dynapoints but not clean by any stretch of the imagination. Turns gophers inside out! Mossberg does not like to cycle too much.

Federal Champion 36gr HP- Reasonably accurate, clean....My go to gopher round

Federal 31gr HP - same as above, but has trouble cycling the mossberg

Federal 40gr solid - clean reasonably accurate.

I usually shoot the blazer at the range, i get the best groups with it, and federal champion HP for critters.
 
I though Canadian Gun Users thread would contribute very well, thanks for your help!

So I just recieved 3 new BC Steel lips 25 rd mags, and I wanted to test them out vs the 3 Hot Lips that I already have (but haven't used much). I also wanted to see what would feed and shoot reliably in my 10/22 with the few add ons that I have. First off my 10/22 is just a standard model with a barrel band and iron sights and has only a few mods; 1. Tuffer Buffer, 2. Volquartsen Extractor, 3. Volquartsen Mag Release, 4. "Recoil" Pad (just to extend the length of pull some).


I bought up several types of ammo from the local CT and cycled through them in full and partial magazine loads. Point to note, I was not really looking at group size. The first run of every type was a 25 rd full mag at a 50m target to see how it cycled. The group sizes are generalizations based on 5 and 10rd groups fired later. And as a rule different ammo runs differently in each rifle.

1. I started with the old stuff that I was using at 25 rds in all 6 mags to see how they compared. This was Winchester Dynapoint GT 500 rd cheapo 40 GR HP Plated. Just loading this crap in the steel lipped mags was a problem. In short it is GARBAGE with terrible tolerances and FTF and inconsistent sizes. Really not a surprise. It cycled basically alright through the Hot Lips which apparently have looser tolerances, but had at least 2 stoppages per mag. I will have to finish the box off in the 10/22 factory 10 round mag as it's the only thing that will feed this garbage well. Don't waste your money unless you like to practice clearing stoppages.

2. Federal 40 GR Solid I fed this through a Steel Lip and had feeding issues with the first two rounds, BUT I then reseated the mag and it fed fine. Actually running very consistently throughout with decent groups.

3.Federal Champion 525 RD Value Pack, 36 GR HP Plated 1280 FPS Absolutely no issues or stoppages at all through any mag throughout the day. Looking at a case side on it has a noticeably wider primer and a narrower nose which feeds quite well in my mags. It is not competition grade for grouping but does well for 525 rd boxes.

4. Winchester Super X Power Point 40 GR High Velocity 1280 FPS Plated (100 rd box stuff) I expected better performace out of this stuff as it is more expensive and comes in a fancy box. Unfortunately although it groups decently it has about a 1 or 2 in 300 Failure to Fire and doesen't always feed well when shooting rapidly. I won't buy it for BC mags anymore.

5. Federal Game Shok 38 GR HP Plated High Velocity This fed perfectly and was consistently decent in grouping. It had no issues feeding with a steady rate of fire. It also grouped well even in 25 round groups.

6. Remington Thunderbolt High Velocity 40 Grain Lead Round Nose 1255 FPS In short, GARBAGE, I only fired 50-75 rounds and had 5 Failures to Fire. It generally fed well but didn't group well and anything that costs a little more should go bang when the trigger is pulled. Not going to buy it again.

7. Winchester Wild Cat 40 GR High Velocity Solid This fed reliably, but had a fairly large spread. I can't be sure about the accuracy though. I will have to try it again.

8. Blazer 40 GR Solid This also fed reliably but had a couple wingers in one or two of my groups. Although a gust of wind at 50m can cause that with a .22. The main group itself was decent, but I will have to confirm again.

9. American Eagle This fed reliably every time and held a decent group. It seems to be a good choice and I expect it will hold up well when compared to others for accuracy.

10. CCI Stingers These shot well when I had earlier compared them to the dynapoint garbage and winchester super X, but on this shoot there was a problem. Out of every 10 or so rounds, 2 or 3 of them would fail to load on cycling, as though the action cycled enough to re-#### the hammer but not enough to allow the round to be stripped from the magazine. This could be a size issue, or a filthy rifle issue. But when I made up 25 round mags of 5 rounds each of different types these are the only type that caused this problem. This only happened with two or three rounds previously so I'm not sure if it's an issue with the ammo, or if as I said they are only reliable in a cleaner rifle. That aside they generally group reasonably, but the groups were split due the cycling issue so I can't be sure.

In conclusion, the Federal Champion Value Pack ammo is going to be my pick for bulk ammo with this rifle, and the American Eagle I suspect will be the front runner for accuracy when I compare group sizes later.

Also, I can say that both the BC Hot Lips and Steel Lips seem to feed almost anything, with the Steel Lips seeming to be much tighter in tolerance. I also except that they will perform reliably much longer than the Hot Lips and that the Hot Lips will wear down much faster. When I got the Hot Lips they would not seat easily in the rifle, but it took little time to wear the plastic down to the right size just through use. This is good in that they now fit this rifle just right, but not good in that they worked in too easily. The Steel Lips are also easier on the thumbs to load.

Finally- I need to buy a mag loader, 5 hours of loading mags and shooting was ridiculous.
 
CCI Stinger: price was a bit steep 8 dollars for 50, excellent round, led sat firmly without wobble in the case, solid point had no problems, no duds, burned really clean, hard hitting round. Worth paying more money for.

I tried the CCI Stingers in my Lakefield 64b with scope and was impressed with how hard hitting round it was. You can really tell the difference. Seemed to shoot higher than the standard round I usually use, Remmington Cyclones. They are a little pricey. Might be worth playing with. I'll have to get my lakefield sighted in properly with cci or get out my gun rest and do a proper grouping test to see how it performs in my rifle. The crack from my rifle was sure impressive when I pulled the trigger!
 
I see an absence of CCI ammo here it goes,
CCI standard velocity are very accurate up to 50 yrds. as good as
Elley Tennex, but double the price
CCI minimag I found excellent for 100yrd benchrest on windy days
PMC Scoremaster ecinominal and accurate for bulls eye shooting
Winchester Wildcat makes all my semies go bang every time I pull the trigger, only problem (price)!!!
Always try something differrent in your guns you might get a surprise
Dale in T-Bay
 
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10/22 T at 29 yards
 
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