22 ammo question
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That is what I was thinking. I was in an arguement with someone saying their Coey Model 60 will only shoot 22 long. Tried to explain how LR is the standard and will be just fine and if they did manage to find any 22 long it would not be cheap. But why let the facts get in the way of a good arguement. Lol...
.30/06 FTW
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CCI still makes two different types of .22 Long, a LRN and a CPRN both 29 grains. I saw some CPRN at my LGS and was surprised because I’d never seen it before, bought a box for ####s n giggles, it looked like nobody had bought any in a while given the coating of dust on it. Then my other LGS got some of the LRN in.
.30/06 FTW
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Yeah from what I’ve seen it’s slightly more expensive than .22LR, and I don’t think there’s anything chambered in just .22 Long, so it’s kind of pointless, with all the options for .22LR and .22 Short out there.
BattleRife
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Long Rifle is the standard now, but that doesn't mean it was always this way. My understanding is that 100 years ago all the variants of .22 rimfire (Long Rifle, Long, Short, BB and CB) were all very popular. I've read more than one old report that many people shot shorts most of the time, because they were cheaper. I don't know about the Cooey 60 specifically, but I'm sure there are guns out there that will shot .22 Long but not LR. I know there are Beretta pistols that will only shoot .22 Short.
Recently saw a video where it was explained that longs are not made anymore because new shooters kept confusing 'long' with 'long rifle' and after trying to shoot longs would appear in gun stores complaining their new semi autos weren't operating properly
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- Western Manitoba
I probably have it muddled from more than 50 years ago, but quite sure my Dad would get Longs or Long Rifles, pretty much interchangeably, for his Cooey 60 that I learned to shoot with. I seem to recall the labels were Dominion or perhaps Imperial. As I recall, a "Long" was a "Long Rifle" case, with a "Short" bullet. Back then, BB caps cheapest, then Shorts, then Longs, then Long Rifle. Dad said when he was a boy - 1930's - that all they ever shot was the smaller BB caps - never could afford even "Shorts"...
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I have a box of cci .22 long, was bought in 2019-2020.
I'm not a 100 years old - not quite - but I recall that CIL made, and Canadian Tire sold, all of the above plus .22 shot shells. Winchester and Remington rimfire ammo was available, but CIL brands like Dominion, Canuck, and Imperial dominated.
In my teens, I tried a little of everything, including ONE box of longs. At the time, on a 50 cent-a-week allowance, I "splurged" on longs to give them a try. They were ten cents a box more than shorts. Ouch! End of experiment! Later I discovered that long rifle hollow points did an excellent job on rats at the township dump. That sort of set the pattern.
smokeater40
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- Southern, Ontario
The Cooey 60 will shoot, Long, Long Rifle and Shorts, it is tube fed, I have shot all through mine. The Marlin 60 will do it too.
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- Western Manitoba
That I recall, I have never fired BB or CB caps, but for sure lots of Shorts, Longs and Long Rifles - mostly though Dad's Model 60. Once out on my own, do not think I have ever bought anything except Long Rifle. My Dad described to me the little single shot rife that he used as a boy - BB caps - was a "thumb fired" gun - so probably a Winchester product - no trigger - could shoot it while wearing mitts - he said several times the pellet would not go high enough to get a red squirrel in tall spruce tree - does not believe that he could miss, at that range, in those days - was quite sure, to his grave, that the pellet could not get there.
I have read why it's better to use the CB Longs in rifles is that the CB shorts can erode a chamber if you use too many . I read an article in a 22 magazine pertaining to shooting in a Garage . quietly . it was a US article of course . form many years ago .
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- Saskatchewan
I grew up shooting an old Browning Trombone ( pump action) made by Fabrique Nationale Belgium that was marked .22 long. The oldest FN Brownings, both pump and semi auto were designed for Longs for a while, and that changed in the 1940's or 50's. In addition, some of the early FN Browning semis were made for shorts only. I think some other makers did the same. Our rifle would function with .22 long rifle, but sometimes jammed. Longs functioned perfectly, but were lower powered, less accurate, and at least as much money as long rifle cartridges. I shot many boxes of high speed longs in that rifle years ago, but haven't seen any for sale since the 1980's. They were made by CIL ( Whiz-Bang and Imperial), Remington, Winchester, Gevelot, and perhaps other makers. The more recent CB Longs by CCI don't really count, they are a special low powered cartridge for shooting rats inside barns and such.
I still have a brick of 22 long purchased long ago (No pun intended) If not already mentioned, 22 long uses a 29 grain 'short' bullet in a long rifle case. I still don't think the 22 long serves any practical difference these days.
CCI still lists 22 long and 22 long CB, it is just a short bullet on a LR case length.
There are some old guns that do not have a 22 LR chamber, just a 22 Long chamber, just like some have a 22 short chamber only.
The Cooey 60 is not limited to long though, but this is not a rule, old guns need to be verified.
There are some old guns that do not have a 22 LR chamber, just a 22 Long chamber, just like some have a 22 short chamber only.
The Cooey 60 is not limited to long though, but this is not a rule, old guns need to be verified.
