.22 JW15 hiker(13"barrel) first impression(with pics) Now with range report pg2

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So I just picked mine up from Moreguns supply here in Winnipeg.

I'm going to post a few pics with some of my initial opinions to try and help people out with their decision to get one or not as they are selling like hotcakes.

Firstly heres the little puppy
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A little bit of Engrish
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It's really cute!
And handy.
And covered in cosmoline!!!!

I took it apart and cleaned the cosmoline out as best I could
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After a wash in Isopropyl, orange cleaner and some Ed's red, it was finally ready to put against my cheek.
And this is what I witnessed next.
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Pretty nice simple sights. The front blade is plenty thin enough to use, but could let a little more light in on both sides. I'll see how they do tomorrow.

All in all I think this baby is begging for a nice 3/8" rail mounted peep sight.(anyone know where I can find a williams 5d-gr?)

But I sure like the hooded front blade, the hoods got a hole on top to let in light. that sits on a nice rounded crown in the bare, hardly target grade, but then again this is not a bench gun. I think I'll blue the muzzle so it looks a little less sketchy.

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The finish on the gun is a nice deep blue, and the machining is quite smooth, with very few tracks.

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The safety is a little stiff, and being used to savages I had to look up how to use it in the manual. All in all I think it's way classier being on the bolt, but not quite as quick shooting left-hand. (Which is how I shoot!)

The trigger breaks nice clean and light!!!
That's right everybody. Nice trigger.

The Magazine is a nice little flush mounted 5 shot, unlike the 10 shot they said it would come with!!

Luckily I much prefer it to 10 shot ones, but I might go grab a 10shot CZ mag. at Cabela's for plinking to compliment the short one for hunting/hiking.(p.s CZ 10shots are 40$ at cabela's BLAH)

The follower is steel, which is pretty cool in these days of plastic.

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It is a little shorter than my M6 (when it's unfolded)30.5"vs32" and a little lighter too(M6 .22lr weighs 4.5lbs) this one feels closer to 4 (no scale). Maybe a touch heavier than a papoose but I sold mine so who knows.
But in terms of survival use, the M6 is probably more versatile as it can use .410 slugs (survival big game) and my favorite (WW 5 pellet 000buck for when things go bump in the night). But the JW15 is definitely a contender. We will see how they stack up against each other tomorrow. It sure is a lot more comfortable to use than the weird Springfield M6.

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The scope was really too big for the gun, in fact the bolt handle would hit the rear of the scope, and it took off a little blueing on the bolt, and marred the scope some. Also I could only mount the scope far enough forward till it hit the rear sight blade.
Not to mention the safety being really awkward for a left hander like me to manipulate with the scope on. Not to bad without the scope though.


. More comparisons to the M6. A gravel pit report. And what my girlfriend thinks. Coming soon!
 
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I like so far... :) Range report would have to be bad for me to take this one off the "want" list. Held one of these last week, hard NOT to want one for the money.
 
looking at the sights-could they be swapped out for fiber optic sights?[its the only way I can use open sights,otherwise its got to be scoped]if it is scoped-can the existing sights be easily removed?I'm very pleased at the trigger report...
I'm really loooking forward to your range report-will it shoot''minute of grouse head''at 25 yards?
 
looking at the sights-could they be swapped out for fiber optic sights?[its the only way I can use open sights,otherwise its got to be scoped]if it is scoped-can the existing sights be easily removed?I'm very pleased at the trigger report...
I'm really loooking forward to your range report-will it shoot''minute of grouse head''at 25 yards?

Looks like the blade is integral with the ramp. But if you found the right Williams firesight ramp.....

The front sight ramp unscrews and the rear sight is dovetailed, so you could drift it out. I've never had a problem with the front sight getting in the way of a scope, it just dissappears except at low magnification, but your'e still pretty much looking right through it transparently.
 
Another one looking forward to the range report. (Here's hoping it's reasonably accurate!)

How much work/cost would there be to getting a peep sight installed? I'm just not happy with how short the sight radius is.

Also, after you shoot it, can you comment on how loud it is with such a short barrel?

Thanks!
 
Another one looking forward to the range report. (Here's hoping it's reasonably accurate!)

How much work/cost would there be to getting a peep sight installed? I'm just not happy with how short the sight radius is.

Also, after you shoot it, can you comment on how loud it is with such a short barrel?

Thanks!


I'm trying to find a peep that mounts on the rear 3/8" scope grooves. I think I saw one a few months ago for 60$us.

I'm planning on shooting, Rem subsonics, CCI subsonics, Stingers, Federal Value pack HPs, Winchester 333 value HPs, CCI CB longs, CCI standard vel., and CCI velocitors. Oh yeah and Rem Yellowjackets, Winchester T22, and Remington Cbees(new) and maybe CCI Quick-shok.;)

How many do you think I'll have time to work through;)
 
What... no Bazers?!? :D

I'm trying to find a peep that mounts on the rear 3/8" scope grooves. I think I saw one a few months ago for 60$us.

I'm planning on shooting, Rem subsonics, CCI subsonics, Stingers, Federal Value pack HPs, Winchester 333 value HPs, CCI CB longs, CCI standard vel., and CCI velocitors. Oh yeah and Rem Yellowjackets, Winchester T22, and Remington Cbees(new) and maybe CCI Quick-shok.;)

How many do you think I'll have time to work through;)
 
It'll definately be louder-when I cut back my 26'' brno to 18,there was definately an increase in noise.If I DO buy one-I'm going to take off my 4x Bushnell 22 varmint scope on my other NORINCO 22 Magnum and swap it over....[nobody seems to know anything about this little scope]
 
My buddies single shot Remington bolt pistol is pretty loud, but this one has a few inches on it.
I hope it's not too loud with Subsonics, so I can get away with plinking when I forget the ear buds.
 
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Alright I had a pretty good time at the gravel pit's yesterday with my girlfriend and this little sweetheart of a .22.

I probably put a few hundred rounds through it. Mostly Federal Bulk pack as it's the cheapest around here and pretty good ammo.
The sights were well oriented horizontally but took a little fiddling with the elevation slider to get it dead on at 25yds. This is my third group of the day with irons and Federal Bulk pack.
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With Iron sights I was able to generally get 4 shots in an inch, but usually had a flier.
I attribute this to a field rest that was somewhat expedient (a big rock) and the sights being somewhat difficult, the front blade taking up too much of the tiny rear notch. Also it was a bit windy so I often got a bit of horizontal stringing. Partially from the sights, and partially from the target swaying a bit.

Heres a pic of the rest. Basically a big rock with a sand bag.
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Anyway my girlfriend loved the gun, and was getting groups around 2" with the irons. Once we put on the scope however it was a different story.
This gun can shoot! And so can she.
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Although I must say it transformed a tiny little handy sub-carbine into a compact little target rifle both in terms of accuracy and in terms of ungainliness. Mind you I did put on a big Bushnell 3-9x32 Adjustable objective. It took me literally 5 shots to mount the scope and zeroe it, by boresighting it visually, by looking through the barrel, and adjusting the scope to correspond to it. Who needs a boresighter!
Heres Annes first group with Winchester 333 Bulk pack HPs and the scope.
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With the scope on this thing was really easy to shoot well. The combination of clear sight picture and light trigger led to us getting sub 1" groups more often then not. Even with bulk pack. Once again I was plagued by getting a flier most of the time which is probably due to sub-par shooting conditions and me just sucking and drinking coffee. But discounting that 5th shot, most groups were around 2/3-3/4 of an inch at 25yds. With some notable ammo exceptions.
Also I shot only one group with most ammo as It was getting late in the day and my girlfriend wanted to check out one of those picked clean smalltown secondhand stores with no good results.
Next time I shoot this it will be from a good rest in calm conditions, and I'll try a few groups with each ammo.

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I didn't get a chance to shoot all this ammo maybe next time.
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Heres a representitive Federal Bulk-pack group of about an 1-1/4" Once again with a bit of horizontal action. (windy target I think) the big hole is from a muzzleloader.
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And another bulk pack
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And this is what velocitors did.
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And CCI subsonics
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And Remington Cbees
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And Yellowjackets
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And the thing just hated Stingers, I had to laugh my ass off while shooting this group.

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This gun sure doesn't like the Hyper-velocity shells.


By and large this thing can shoot with a scope. I think with the right target ammo in good conditions into 1/2" at 25yds.
Personally the first thing I did when I got home was take the scope off. I'm going to thin out the front blade and try to find that peep sight, I love this gun for how handy it is, no point in ruining that with a scope.

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OK and Noise. It is louder than a regular .22. I'd say that regular shells sound like stingers, and stingers sound like .22magnums. Subsonics are not too bad too shoot without earbuds, and CBees while far from silent like they are in a 24" are quite pleasant to shoot.
I don't think I'd be poaching the rabbits out of my neighbours back yard, like I have with a long barreled 26" Savage with subsonics, but don't worry about wrecking your hearing popping a couple of grouse in the woods.

The action is tight but smooth, really well put together, I did find that it jammed a couple of times with the Winchester 333 and CCI subsonics. Their nose is just too big a flat HP and the hung up on the edge of the chamber and had to be babied in. Too bad because I think they're the best of the lot for potential accuracy.
I'm going to try some CCI standard velocity next time though. It's pretty good ammo, quiet and inexpensive.



P.S I'm still busy editing and adding to this post, my uploading pics is going slow
 
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I'm sure looking forward to seeing your groups with a scope...maybe 25 and 50 yards.you said the trigger was good-how is the action and does it feed?-hopefully nice and smooth?
I think I'll opt for one of these or a ruger 10/22 compact,they're both about the same size but I do like the bolt action for reliability.Do you know if you can get extra mags?
 
Hmm, don't take this the wrong way, but those groupings aren't exactly impressive for 25 yards with a scope.

Any bolt action 22 at that distance should really put those all into one ragged hole, in my opinion. But coffee can always affect things too :)
 
Hmm, don't take this the wrong way, but those groupings aren't exactly impressive for 25 yards with a scope.

Any bolt action 22 at that distance should really put those all into one ragged hole, in my opinion. But coffee can always affect things too :)


Too true, But the main thing was a crappy shooting position and the target, a cardboard fridge box was swaying in the wind, and we kept having to go over and prop it up with stuff. I think in an indoor range with a bench 1/2inch groups would be no problem.
 
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Quick question - is the buttstock hollow? I'm just thinking that a hollow stock would make for a handy place to store some ammo and a few bits and pieces.

Yes but I wouldn't want to keep taking it off, might strip the darned screwholes as it just screws into plastic

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Sounds great! Can't wait till Wednesday that's when mr postman should be dropping mine off, got mine from Frontier, but once again thanks OP for the report you just iced the cake for me, but now it's going to be an agonizing 4 days :p
 
SO-who all carries the rifle-and is there any diference in price or are they all $189?
and thanks so much for your report,much appreciated.Looks like it will shoot ''minute of grouse head''and thats all I'm interested in...I think you could put some backing,or epoxy a nut behind the screw holes so as to make them better for removing-it could be a good storage place for ammo
 
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