.22 l . Does it even exist ?

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So , I've got a little Cooey 60 . Shoots LR , L , and Short . I've shot both short and long rifle through it , and would like to find some long .
Is this stuff even made anymore ? I sure can't find any .
If not , I'm wondering why it's not made , but short still is . Shooting the short is like shooting BBs . I would think that , if manufacturers were going to discontinue one of the three , it would have been short , as it seems kind of less useful than long ( that's just my opinion mind you ) .
I'm sure some of you have more relevant info on this than my opinion .
Enlighten me please .
Thanks
Dana
 
The Long really does not have a purpose or fill a niche in today's world. Ammo in the LR category fills the needs. I don't know of anyone manufacturing any today.
 
CB Longs are still available from a couple of sources.
However, the long serves little purpose in today's 22 lineup.
I have some old Dominion "Whiz-Bang" longs in my possession.
Just for nostalgia's sake, lol.
The long was usually less accurate than a short, for some reason.
Some old 22's were chambered for the Short & Long, but not the LR.
These had a slower rifling twist [1-20" IIRC, vs 1-16" for the 22LR]
Regards, Eagleye.
 
CCI is still producing 22l:

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/detail.aspx?use=3&loadNo=0038

FEATURES & BENEFITS
•29 grain lead round nose at 710 ft/sec
•No louder than some pellet rifles
•Clean-burning propellants keep actions cleaner
•Sure-fire CCI priming
•Reusable plastic box with dispenser lid

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I like the versatility of 22's that take the shorter rounds. My favourite load for pest control and rabbit hunting near urban areas (where legal) is the 22 CB short, which I shoot in my Marlin 39m. At the ranges I shoot, I get excellent penetration and the noise isn't objectionable to anyone nearby.
 
Yeah, CCI as been said. Depending on the gun, in a tube mag longs add the benefit of additional round capacity as they are shorter than long rifle.
 
Dagmaar said:
So , I've got a little Cooey 60 . Shoots LR , L , and Short . I've shot both short and long rifle through it , and would like to find some long .
Is this stuff even made anymore ? I sure can't find any .
If not , I'm wondering why it's not made , but short still is . Shooting the short is like shooting BBs . I would think that , if manufacturers were going to discontinue one of the three , it would have been short , as it seems kind of less useful than long ( that's just my opinion mind you ) .
I'm sure some of you have more relevant info on this than my opinion .
Enlighten me please .
Thanks
Dana
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I see you are not very familiar with the 22 short, or else you wouldn't run them down so.
Hit a grouse in the body with a 22 LR and there is an excellent chance that it will fly off, before it dies.
A hit with a 22 short in the same place will nearly always anchor the bird right there.
At one time many hundreds of trappers and prospectors lived full time in the wilderness. They constantly shot small game for food, especially in the summer time. Their rifle was a 22, usually a single shot and their ammunition used was virtually 100% shorts.
 
Thanks all , as usual , very informative answers !
I did not know that the long was less accurate than the short , very interesting .
I dont shoot birds , gophers etc , so I wasn't aware how useful the shorts were for that . All I do is kill paper so , there ya go . My only basis for what I like is the bang factor , paper accuracy and how much of a pain it is to pick up the casings after shooting , lol .
I will keep my eye out for some CCI though as I would like to try it .
Love all of the history I learn from your responses ! Some very cool stuff indeed .
Thanks again
Dana
 
In the boonedocks where I grew up, the family 22 supplied a lot of small game. It was a big, bolt action Savage with a clip magazine and peep sights. In our family the grouse, squirrles and rabbits had to be shot in the head.
In recent years I have often read where longs were inaccurate, but I am not a bit convinced. If we had a descent hold on a grouse, or squirrels head, we seldom missed, and our ammunition was always longs!
Also, we used that rifle and longs to win many turkeys at turkey shoots.
So that's my take on 22 longs.
 
Sorry Dana, not meaning to hi-jack but this thought ran between
me ears....
Just curious as to the harm one could do firing a long rifle round (s) down a
rifle chambered for the short and or long only?
 
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The CCI CB Long. is a reduced load. It is not a true .22 Long cartridge.

Read here for more info on the .22 Long.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long

Ballistic performance Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy 29 gr (1.9 g) RN 1,038 ft/s (316 m/s) 67 ft·lbf (91 J) Source(s): Cartridges of the World [1]

In over sixty-five years of shooting .22s, I've always thought of the .22 Long, as a cartridge without a purpose.:confused:

2 cents Eh!
 
One time I saw this gun that you loaded 22shorts into the buttstock, it was pretty small and the guy said it was popular in the 50's
 
kamlooky said:
Sorry Dana, not meaning to hi-jack but this thought ran between
me ears....
Just curious as to the harm one could do firing a long rifle rifle round (s) down a
rifle chambered for the short and or long only?
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A long case and a long rifle case are the same. The long bullet is about 29 grains vs 40 grain(typically) for LR. If the chamber takes a long it should take a LR with no issues.
As Halger... says above , a cartridge with no purpose other than the novelty. Longs are usually more expensive due to limited production runs and considering what is available in
long rifle, the latter are a much better deal.
 
kamlooky said:
Sorry Dana, not meaning to hi-jack but this thought ran between
me ears....
Just curious as to the harm one could do firing a long rifle rifle round (s) down a
rifle chambered for the short and or long only?
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Better safe than sorry on that one Kamlooky . I've heard people say it is possible to do , but personally , I'd never risk it .
I always wonder why there are still rifles made to chamber all three when , the long round is really not used anymore ( and from responses here it seems it is a largely redundant round ) .
 
For many years firearm manufacturers made rimfire chambers suitable for short,long and long rifle and stamped their firearms S,L and LR.
The long rifle chamber will accomodate all of these. A short chamber will likely not even accept a LR cartridge. The cartridge is too long.
There may be some early production FA with data stamps stipulating short and long. The owners might step in here.
There is a concern with using frequent and extended use of short cartridges in a long rifle chamber. That use may cause a build-up of lead and carbon in the unoccupied front portion of the chamber. If not cleaned , as many on here have stated they rarely if ever clean their 22s, that build-up may prevent the chambering of a LR cartridge.
Similar to using 38s in a 357 magnum chamber without appropriate cleaning.
 
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