.22 LR Match grade Bullets Question

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I want to start long range shooting (150 yards plus) with my .22.
My gun shoots more accurately using supersonic ammo than sub-sonic
ammo at up to 100 yards. My question is: Do they make supersonic
match grade ammo? What brands/weights? Is match grade ammo worth
the extra coin? Thanks, -Jason
 
max302 said:
150 yards+ with a 22, thats a whole lot of kentucky elevation if you ask me. If you want to shoot match at 150, get a .223.
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Hey !!!!!!!!! .........

I resemble that remark ......... :D :D :D :D

There's a bunch of us at Sharon who are affectionately know as "the pig people", who gather every Saturday morning, have breakfast together and shoot a small metal silhouette pig at 200 meters. We each throw in $2 to the pot and the best out of 10 takes it. We've actually had a couple of occasions in the last few years where someone has scored 10/10. :D

Rifles tend to be Anshutz or Martini International's (Mk2's through 5's)

It gives a whole new meaning to reading wind. ;)

We have a ton of fun and major heckling tends to be the flavor of the day.

Regards,
Badger
 
Right now I'm getting 1" groups @ 100 yards using CCI Velocitors out of my Cooey Model 60. I shoot it of of a sniper saddle. I've been shooting 100 yards for over a year now and on windy days (10-20 mph) my groups open up to 4-5". Now I'm wondering if my grouping would change using match grade bullets. -Jason
 
Does match grade ammo make a difference? Yes.
Is it worth the extra coin? Depends on what kind of accuracy you are looking for. Some match .22 ammo of the same type may shoot better then others, depending on the lot# and what your rifle likes. Some serious smallbore shooter will test different lot# then buy a case of what shoot best.
My Anschutz will shoot crappy ammo 10 shots into about a 3 inch group at 50yards:eek: :eek: :eek:
However it will shoot a 10 shot group of Eley Tennex under a dime.:D :D :D
 
Ignor the naysayer. He knows not what he speaks of.

.22 rimfire is just fine for 150+ yards sniping.

I shoot gophers out to 200 yds with my rimfire so 150 yds is an "easy" shot.

Accuracy requirements and amo choice heavy depend on what you are doing with the thing.

I spent a lot of time testing ammo lots and sorting by weight and rim thickness etc to get the most accurate combination for my rifle. While it benefitted group size on paper it made little difference in the field.

The reason is a gopher doesn't care if you hit within 0.1" or 0.5" or 1.0" of your point of aim. It still falls over dead so you have no way to know how good the shot was. Also range and wind and a dozen other unpredictable factors are at work in field shooting.

Thus I no longer weigh or sort my field ammo. A good rifle, decent optics and experience seem to make a much larger difference in the ability to connect shots on game than the most outright accurate rifle/ammo combination.

One last thing, for small game hunting, high velocity hollow points offer much better terminal punch than typical subsonic rounds.
 
This type of 100+ yard plinking sounds like my cup-o-tea.I could post this in the optics section but generally speaking .22 and long range don't usually garner much more than a laugh.Soooooo...what type of scope does one get.I would prefer a real 3-9 power with an adjustable objective,but is this a suitable choice?Never used a scope but 40+ yr old eyes suggest I should.Any and all advice will be appreciated.Crows @ 100 yds,thats what I want.
 
I use a rim thickness gauge to sort my 22 ammo and we have fun shooting balloons and steel at 200-300 yards. Long range with the 22 is fun, cheap and gives you braggin' rights when you can nail the target consistently. Don't knock it till you have tried it.
 
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150+ with a .22lr? Good luck with that!
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Why put down something about which you obviously have no experience or knowledge?

150 yds with a 22 rimfire is not only very possible, it isn't even all that hard with the right equipment and experience. I connected a 2 inch wide gopher with a single shot at a lazer ranged 170 yds. I have also killed a number of gophers at 200+ yards. And I can consistently headshoot gophers at around 80-90 yds (gopher's head is about the size of a loony coin).

This sort of precision shooting is not done with a $200 rifle, a $50 scope and cheapo ammo. It takes an expensive and accurate target rifle, good optics and some range testing to find a good ammo for the rifle.

Below is mine and the wife's .22 rimfire gopher slayers. Hers (top) is an Anschutz 64M and mine (bottom) is a Valmet ISU target rifle. Both rifles wear Tasco 3-9x40 Mil dot scopes with Butler Creek target turrets. The scopes are mounted in Burris Signature Rings and we often shoot off Harris Bipods. Neither setup was inexpensive but the resulting accuracy and shooting fun has been well worthwhile.

22TargetRifles.jpg
 
Rohann said:
150+ with a .22lr? Good luck with that!

-Rohann
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I shoot 200 yards with my CZ and formerly with my Kimber, and plan to shoot to 300, I just did the ballistic profile.

In a little friendly match we did here on CGN maybe a bit over a year ago I shot 2.27" at 200 yards for 5 rounds with CCI Velocitors and my Kimber SVT (the first three went into less than 3/4" of an inch and the last two opened it up.) .22's are very accurate out there, and can meet and beat MOA at 200. I think Eagleye (he edged me into 2nd for the win) shot almost dead on MOA at 200 yards with his .22LR.

So forget what the people who do not know what they're talking about say (not an insult, many people are just ignorant to ballistics and/or haven't tried and comment prematurely) and give it a go. I HIGHLY recommend CCI Velocitors, very accurate, very consistent, and fast, plus a great HP.

Here's the 400 yard ballistics;



CCI VELOCITOR 400 YARD BALLISTICS @1435fps, 500’, 70F





Range Elevation Velocity Energy ETA Drop Max Y 10mph Wind Deflect
000 yds -1.75 in 1435 fps 183 fpe 0.000 sec 0.00 in -1.75 in 0.00 in
025 yds 3.99 in 1335 fps 158 fpe 0.054 sec 0.56 in -0.56 in 0.38 in
050 yds 8.51 in 1246 fps 138 fpe 0.113 sec 2.33 in -0.08 in 1.41 in
075 yds 11.62 in 1169 fps 121 fpe 0.175 sec 5.51 in 0.78 in 3.16 in
100 yds 13.15 in 1105 fps 109 fpe 0.241 sec 10.28 in 2.12 in 5.58 in
125 yds 12.91 in 1054 fps 99 fpe 0.310 sec 16.81 in 3.98 in 8.62 in
150 yds 10.74 in 1011 fps 91 fpe 0.383 sec 25.28 in 6.43 in 12.22 in
175 yds 6.51 in 975 fps 84 fpe 0.458 sec 35.80 in 9.51 in 16.29 in
200 yds 0.00 in 943 fps 79 fpe 0.537 sec 48.61 in 13.31 in 20.89 in
225 yds -8.84 in 915 fps 74 fpe 0.618 sec 63.74 in 17.84 in 25.92 in
250 yds -20.12 in 889 fps 70 fpe 0.701 sec 81.32 in 23.16 in 31.33 in
275 yds -34.04 in 865 fps 66 fpe 0.786 sec 101.53 in 29.34 in 37.17 in
300 yds -50.80 in 842 fps 63 fpe 0.874 sec 124.58 in 36.45 in 43.48 in
325 yds -70.43 in 821 fps 60 fpe 0.965 sec 150.51 in 44.51 in 50.18 in
350 yds -92.96 in 801 fps 57 fpe 1.057 sec 179.33 in 53.57 in 57.20 in
375 yds -118.73 in 781 fps 54 fpe 1.151 sec 211.40 in 63.72 in 64.65 in
400 yds -147.97 in 763 fps 52 fpe 1.249 sec 246.93 in 75.07 in 72.58 in
 
I have found the Mil Dot reticle is simply invaluable for longer range rimfire shooting. The dots can be used for both hold overs as well as windage corrections.

The trick is to take an edumacated guess on the first shot and spot the miss as it relates to the reticle. Then hold on that spot and fire a second shot. I can't tell you how many times this has resulted in a second round hit at impressive distances.

Using this system I can often get on a gopher with my single shot target rifle before my buddy using a standard reticle and semi-auto with ten round magazine. The Mil Dot reticle allows accurate aiming corrections while a standard reticle requires the rounds to be walked in.
 
I've shot Eley, Lapua, Federal, and even a couple boxes of $8 Winchester match ammo, but I have never seen supersonic match ammo. Those Sharon crazies (that shoot at a metalic silouhette pig at 200 meteres) use everything under the sun. Some days they say the cheapest stuff gets the most hits one day and nothing the next. 22s are cheap, so you can probably afford to experiment.
 
In my Finnfire RWS R50 was the most accurate. Interestingly, PMC Zappers were not far behind! The only way to find out what your rifle likes is to buy a couple of boxes and try them.
 
I know its not .22lr but I use my .22WMR at 100 yards without concern. With the right ammo it shoots nice little groups at 100 yards with the wrong ammo it sucks.

It'll easily shoot 200 yard targets that are 4" or under using Federal 50 Grain ammo.

Its an old Mossberg Chuckster with a Bushnell Elite 3200, 10x40. Less than $500 all in but I'd never part with it.
 
max302 said:
150 yards+ with a 22, thats a whole lot of kentucky elevation if you ask me. If you want to shoot match at 150, get a .223.
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huh, thats funny. My .22 shoots way tighter at 200 yards than does my mini-14 ( .223). The only difference is the delay in the .22 getting there. I used small balloons, and you can count.. its kinda fun. Pull the trigger... one ... two... three....pop!
 
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