.223 newb reloading question

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Just started reloading a month ago and I have only done a few .308 rounds. Today I tried a few .223s and I’ve set the FL dies exactly like the videos and instruction say, I size and de-prime and check my length and it’s right on and go to try the bullet tip in the brass and it won’t sit in it?? WTF am I doing wrong??
 
Just started reloading a month ago and I have only done a few .308 rounds. Today I tried a few .223s and I’ve set the FL dies exactly like the videos and instruction say, I size and de-prime and check my length and it’s right on and go to try the bullet tip in the brass and it won’t sit in it?? WTF am I doing wrong??

Flat based?
If so, I have to hold mine until they get started.

You do mean the base right? Not the tip.
 
Measure the inside of your case neck to confirm the inside dimension, where you are trying to seat the bullet into. I'm not an expert but I've seen a few examples of the neck being sized down too much.
 
Yes they are flat based and I did chamfer the edges. Maybe I didn’t do it Enuf who knows. I didn’t try seating a bullet In cuz I wasn’t sure if I should or not until asked on CGN. I will try chamfering Alittle more then try and seat the bullet and hopefully it works.

Thanks for the help.
 
Before you get too far into your reloading for 223

what bullet weight are you using
and
What is your barrel twist ?

if they are 50g and your barrel twist is 8 -7.5 or 9 ..... you are not going to have any fun
 
Fast twist never hurt a decent bullet.

When you champfer, all you need to do is shave off the rough edge.

A flat based bullet has to be held with your finger all the way up into the die.

Boat tails are much easier.
 
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I have a Tikka with an 8 twist and it shoots 40 grain bullets as well as it does 75 grain bullets. I speak from experience not from charts found on the internet.
 
My 9 twist's favorite projectile is 52gr ELDM followed by 52gr BTHP.
On the contrary, anything 70gr or over I get keyholing so in my case 9 twist isn't enough for "heavies"
 
My 9 twist's favorite projectile is 52gr ELDM followed by 52gr BTHP.
On the contrary, anything 70gr or over I get keyholing so in my case 9 twist isn't enough for "heavies"

Yes, keyholing is proof that the twist inadequate for that bullet.

Actually, what it means is that the RPM of the bullet is inadequate to stabilize the longer bullet. There are three solutions:

Shorter bullet.

Faster twist barrel

More velocity.

I did some work for Savage on this issue. Their 223 barrels were 1;12 (maybe 1:14??) and I was urging them to go to 1:8 so we could use the Sierra 80 gr Match bullet and get some long range performance.

They sent me some 1:9 prototype rifles to test in the Canadian winter. Sort of a worst case scenario with slower bullets and denser air.

I found that if I got the velocity up (26" barrel and 4895 powder) the bullets were stable.

Can you try a slower powder, like Varget, RL15 or N-150 and try to boost the heavy bullet velocity? Unless the barreel is a short one, it should be able to stabilize the 80 gr bullet.
 
Yes they are flat based and I did chamfer the edges. Maybe I didn’t do it Enuf who knows. I didn’t try seating a bullet In cuz I wasn’t sure if I should or not until asked on CGN. I will try chamfering Alittle more then try and seat the bullet and hopefully it works.

Thanks for the help.

Don't over chamfer the inside of there neck. It doesn't require much. Your problem is you haven't even tried to seat the bullet. Just push it in.

Just to cover all the bases. Your sizing die does have the expander ball/button installed?
 
Before you get too far into your reloading for 223

what bullet weight are you using
and
What is your barrel twist ?

if they are 50g and your barrel twist is 8 -7.5 or 9 ..... you are not going to have any fun

Poppycock. There is no reason a light bullet can't be shot in a fast twist barrel.




The red portion to the left side is pure baloney. There is no reason a light bullet can't be shot in a fast twist barrel.
 
Fast twist barrel and high velocity light weight varmint bullets can spin apart on exit of muzzle...Believe me it happens.
 
It CAN happen but that doesn't mean it will happen or will always happen. Good quality varmint bullets shouldn't be a problem. The 223 really shouldn't be capable of pushing a bullet hard enough to result in it falling apart. If we were talking same parameters with a 22-250 or a 220 Swift then this might be a more serious issue.

I have only experienced spontaneous deflagration of bullets in flight once but that involved a seriously overheated barrel.
 
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