.223 on deer

How come a .223 would be better for deer than a 22-250? The 22-250 gives about 300lbs more energy at any distance than the .223
 
6.5x55swm said:
How come a .223 would be better for deer than a 22-250? The 22-250 gives about 300lbs more energy at any distance than the .223
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If you don't handload, it may be easier to find hunting grade ammo on the shelf for a 223. And it would likely be easier to find a rifle with a suitable twist rate for heavier bullets in 223.

If you had a 22-250 with a fast twist barrel and handloaded, why of course the 22-250 would be better.:)
 
with the .223 you can get the heavier bullets...the twist of the barrels allows for that...you cannot get a cheap 22/250 that will shoot the heavy stuff..........
 
rem338win said:
So for the sake of conversation, what about the magic .02" makes the 6mm "cleaner" than the 5.56mm bullets. I would think that logic and common sense would apply, and a 60gr TSX will kill just as well at 3300-3600fps, as a 100gr Sierra will at 2950fps. They will both exit at the exact same weight and the path of destruction to the internals will be exactly the same. Define humane when we are talking about dead.
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I agree, but logic and common sense are often lacking, that's why we have these laws.
How many have a handloaded 60 grain TSX they would use? Most 22 cal varmint guns would be using a 50-55 grain factory load of some sort,hence that's the bullet they'd use for deer.

A 243's most common loadings are in the 90-100 grain area. Big difference there.

Another thing to keep in mind when choosing a caliber is the terrain where you're hunting. Inuit use very small calibers. For example, caribou with a 223 is quite common. Trees and heavy brush are non-existant though where they hunt.

I shot a deer years ago(small fork horn) with 222 Rem @ about 80 yards, broadside. Deer ran about 500 yards, the bullet went right through the heart and exited,there was virtually no blood. I vowed to never use that small a caliber again.
 
none said:
People who shoot tin cans and pinecones.:)
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AKA, make your own range. Stupid laws like that assume that people are just hunting when they have guns in the bush. And if they are aren't hunting, they must be poaching. :bsFlag:
 
bearkilr said:
I agree, but logic and common sense are often lacking, that's why we have these laws.
How many have a handloaded 60 grain TSX they would use? Most 22 cal varmint guns would be using a 50-55 grain factory load of some sort,hence that's the bullet they'd use for deer.

A 243's most common loadings are in the 90-100 grain area. Big difference there.

Another thing to keep in mind when choosing a caliber is the terrain where you're hunting. Inuit use very small calibers. For example, caribou with a 223 is quite common. Trees and heavy brush are non-existant though where they hunt.

I shot a deer years ago(small fork horn) with 222 Rem @ about 80 yards, broadside. Deer ran about 500 yards, the bullet went right through the heart and exited,there was virtually no blood. I vowed to never use that small a caliber again.
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Your experience would make most hesitant. I have had very similar things happen with "bad" bullets in larger calibres.
Actually I just had it happen with a slug and a cow's forehead. Who would have thunk a cow could live through a .410 slug between the eyes at 20ft. Weird things happen sometimes.
 
stupid and bad shot hunters are why the laws require larger calibres. any putz can hunt but not every hunter is a good shot. a 223 calibre rifle in the hands of a skilled hunter is deadly to 300M without question, a 300winmag in the hands of a bad shot is deadly to everyone except the animal. boys give your heads a shake. the laws are designed to find the happy medium.
 
dizzy said:
stupid and bad shot hunters are why the laws require larger calibres. any putz can hunt but not every hunter is a good shot. a 223 calibre rifle in the hands of a skilled hunter is deadly to 300M without question, a 300winmag in the hands of a bad shot is deadly to everyone except the animal. boys give your heads a shake. the laws are designed to find the happy medium.
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A .223 with a good bullet is no less deadly than a .257 Roberts within 200yds, and is no less dangerous to anyone than a .300 WM when in the hands of a fool. The problem is this is an emotional subject for some, and it makes no sense. These laws make no sense, and by no means create a happy medium. Happy medium is luke warm and neither coffee or ice cream are preferred luke warm.
If it will penetrate and make a hole, it'll work. And I am scared of it in the hands of a fool. Larger caliber laws are to hunters, what the registry is to victims. Ineffective security blankets.
 
picked up a stevens 200 in 22-250 for $400 and traded a 22 for a bushnell scopechief 2.5x8x32, I already had rings and bases for the stevens, next pay check i will get some ammo!!
 
6.5x55swm said:
picked up a stevens 200 in 22-250 for $400 and traded a 22 for a bushnell scopechief 2.5x8x32, I already had rings and bases for the stevens, next pay check i will get some ammo!!
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Federal loads the 60gr partition or the 53gr tsx for the 22-250 if you need deer bullets. If you reload they are some of th best deer capable bullets in 22cal. I shot a deer a few years ago with a 223wssm and a 52gr tsx, 50ish yard shot. No problem, just make sure you wait for a good shot angle, and put the bullet where it needs to be.
 
I used 70 speer in a 22-250 I had years ago it had a 1-12 twist and gave me 1.5 groups at 200yds. I don't think I will be using the 22-2250 deer any way, a 303 just fell on my lap for FREE!!!!
 
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