.223 semi

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I was at Genesee range on Sunday and think I want a semi. I would like a non res. one so I can shoot gophers with it. Should I look at the new
Mini-14t or the 180b. I would like to spend 1000 to 1200 on it so no high priced H&K or SIG. I have read all the posts on here a bout it but I am undecided yet. Some say the Rugers are as accurate as a shotgun and others say the plastic is crap. Which is the better way to go?
 
180b without a doubt. Don't worry about the "plastic", most things are these days anyways. Besides, that ruger us one fugly mother!
 
The problem with most ~$1000 semi 223's is lack of accuracy. At least as judged by centerfire gopher blaster standards go.

Have you considered an m305? 308, non restricted, about $1k with scope and mount and you can upgrade it as far as the bankroll (or missus) will allow
 
I would say, spend 2250 and get an xcr. i love mine. a sig is nice, but doesn't take ar mags, so no 10 round pistol mags. but you can go wrong with a 180b. you will have to fork out some $$ to mount optics though.
 
koalorka said:
"...The Mini-14 doesn't have that tacti-cool flare..."

That all depends on the Mini-14:

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:cool:
 
lcq said:
"...My 180B shoots 1" with 50gr Vmax handloads. A stock Ruger can't come close..."

A 180B (when you can find one available for sale) also costs $300 more than a stock Ruger (which are relatively easy to find).

Nobody would claim that the Mini-14 is a tack-driver, but its been around with only minor design changes since '74, so it must be filling a niche in the .223 auto-loader market. Ruger wouldn't still be producing them after all these years if folks weren't buying them ...and folks wouldn't be buying them if the rifle didn't have a 'fan base' and some endearing qualities.

I purchased mine late last winter and have probably put about 500 rounds through it over the summer ...all without a single FTF or FTE. Accuracy thus far is about 3-4 MOA with inexpensive 55gr UMC ammo (typical for the Mini-14), but my gunsmith is giving it a trigger job to smooth out some of the factory trigger's harshness, which - along with more practice on my part - should tighten up the grouping a bit more.

People choose/purchase particular firearms for different reasons. For me, I tend to buy 'basic', then customize to come up with something that you may not see uncased at the range every day. The Mini-14, 870 and AR-7 that I own have all had more '$$$' put into them than what they initially cost me to purchase new:

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...but that's half the fun for me (the customizing, not the spending of the money), with the other half being shooting them.

Although, I do wish that the Mini-14 took AR mags!

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john@ said:
"...Can you adapt it to take AR mags?..."

I don't believe so ...the mag well is integral to the receiver and the mag latching mechanisms are entirely different (the 'straight-in' AR style is much easier to use than the 'tilt-n-swing' on the Mini [in my opinion]).
 
Everyone has a 305 I want something different.

Good point & the M305 is yesterdays news..I'm looking myself ''Most bang for the $$'' in a .223

1)H&K SL8
2)Ar-180B with picatinny rail system
3)Magpul, if it ever comes out

I'm assuming here you are looking for something under 2k??
 
The mini is stone reliable and tuff as nails. But if you want to cap hogs at 100+ yds it is not your gun unless you do some work to it. Some folks have turned the mini into quite an accurate little gun.

Brian
 
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