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Yorkdiver

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I've been looking around on here and at Wolverine and have managed to find 5 .223 semi-auto's that are non-restricted.

Swiss Arms SIG
H&K SL-8
AR180B-2
IWI Tavors

Is there anymore?

Also, I live in Ontario, any limitations on where I can shoot and what I can use it for or would it be just like any other non-restricted rifle?

Thanx
 
Lots of threads on this. Try using the "advanced search" part of the "search" button. If you can figure out how to use it effectively, it is your friend.

Seeing as you've invested a bit of effort on your own, I will commit a random act of kindness and suggest some others.

Ruger Mini-14

Ruger Mini-14 Target model.

Robinson XCR (or M96 if you can find one used)

In terms of restrictions on where and when you can use it, make sure you check your provincial hunting regs. You'll be subject to them as well as Federal firearms laws. Some province's laws are written such that you fall under them simply by being in the bush with a rifle.
 
Thanx guys. The list I had was made from previous threads, just wanted to know if there was any that I had missed. Much appreciated.
 
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I bought a SL8 and love it.It ejects the casings in a neat little pile.Tried the swiss arms but man it ejects far and eratic.SL8 will keep me busy till Tavor comes:D
 
I have an XCR, SIG and SL8 here are my impressions.

XCR = Sweet gun, trigger sucks, but a match one is being built by robinson arms as we speek as are 6.5/6.8 match barrels. (WOW).
Swiss SIG - SIG = hard to reload (a) it beats the crap out of the cases (b) hard to find after you shoot. Accurate like you wouldn't believe (with the countersniper barrel (not sure what that model is called on order). (1/2" moa np)

SL8 = unbelievable. Mine was 1/2 MOA or better out of the box with a NF scope on it. Trigger is super clean and repeatable (and when you look at it super complexe). CDN model can fit the 30 rounders (pinned of course :)). Action is QUIET (unlike ARs). The Helixial Barrel is super easy to clean (especially if you shoot molly). Sporter style stock sucks (I have meat mittens) and hitting the saftey is a bit troublesome. I will put the g36 style back end one one day if I can find something that isn't "TOP NOTCH" but authentic G36.

Put my name down for a tavor - fun looking gun.

cheerio Gentlefiends.
 
Hey I'm currently on tour also, and ordered myself a Mini-14 Target from P&D! Wife got it yesterday and I can't wait to try it when it's over....

45 days :D
 
Assyrian said:
Tour?? a Rock band??

Don't say army... You didn't know which rifles come in .223??

btw. You're list of 5 at the top.....it only contains 4.:runaway:
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Did it occur to you that not EVERYONE in the military was born with CLP running in their bloodstream?

That fact that someone is in uniform doesn't mean that they are a firearms guru. Sure lots of folks that join the military are firearms enthusiasts...but not all of them by any means.

As a matter of fact, the question that he asked has NOTHING to do with what he would have been taught about firearms in the military. The CF teaches people a whole lot about the weapons that the CF uses, a little about the weapons that badguys use, and pretty much nothing about which non-restricted .223 rifles are commercially available in Canada. For most soldiers, that would be just another piece of UFI.

After all, the commercial availability of .223 rifles in Canada doesn't really have all that big an effect on firefights in Afghanistan. :rolleyes:

This guy obviously spent some time doing research prior to asking his question. He expressed polite thanks to those of us that answered his question. Why are you so eager to ridicule him?

For those of you that are on tour now...thank you.
 
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Assyrian said:
Tour?? a Rock band??

Don't say army... You didn't know which rifles come in .223??

btw. You're list of 5 at the top.....it only contains 4.:runaway:
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Navy actually, posted to a field unit. Unfortunately, the 5.56s that we use and that I know about aren't readily available to civilians and they don't let us take them home at the end of the day.

And as for knowing the weapons, about the only trade that "knows" all the weapons and it trained in many of them would be the infantry. The rest of the forces gets a quick famil on the major weapons we MIGHT see and be required to use, but that is it. And as a navy medic, it isn't really required for me to know many more of the weapons than the ones I will be expected to use in the system.

The Robinson was on the list, but then came off cause of the trigger problem.
 
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w squared said:
As a matter of fact, the question that he asked has NOTHING to do with what he would have been taught about firearms in the military. The CF teaches people a whole lot about the weapons that the CF uses, a little about the weapons that badguys use, and pretty much nothing about which non-restricted .223 rifles are commercially available in Canada. For most soldiers, that would be just another piece of UFI.

After all, the commercial availability of .223 rifles in Canada doesn't really have all that big an effect on firefights in Afghanistan. :rolleyes:

For those of you that are on tour now...thank you.
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FYI, I'm one of the top shots at my unit (much as the army guys hate having the Navy out shoot them). The problem is that our range time is nil. Typically once a year, couple more times if you are heading overseas. I am looking for a .223 / 5.56 non-restricted (will take too long to get my restricted and that will happen when I get back) semi-auto so that I can do some private shooting outside of work.

I currently have a Tikka T3 .270 that I love. But it handles and operates too differently than a C-7.

Chronos: I'm actually liking the Ruger at the moment and it has made it way to the top of the list. Going to see if there is a place near Ottawa that sells them, or can get them in now.

And you're welcome.
 
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Good to know that you swabbies have talents other than growing beards :D

The Mini-14 target has been getting some really good reviews. Ardent has a pair of them, and there's a pretty good thread here about them.

Whatever you decide to get, ENJOY!
 
Yorkdiver said:
Navy actually, posted to a field unit. Unfortunately, the 5.56s that we use and that I know about aren't readily available to civilians and they don't let us take them home at the end of the day.

And as for knowing the weapons, about the only trade that "knows" all the weapons and it trained in many of them would be the infantry. The rest of the forces gets a quick famil on the major weapons we MIGHT see and be required to use, but that is it. And as a navy medic, it isn't really required for me to know many more of the weapons than the ones I will be expected to use in the system.

The Robinson was on the list, but then came off cause of the trigger problem.
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Assuming you're talking about C7s and C8s (Automatic AR15s) You may not be able to buy a Diemaco (Colt Canada) made lower, but you can get Colt Canada made uppers in Canada. They're not easy to find, but they're out there. If you're willing to settle on just any AR15, then the sky's the limit man, ARs are everywhere in the civilian market. Although, as you said, you will need a restricted licence. They're not as difficult or time consuming as you think to get though, especially if you just challenge the safety test. The longest wait in the whole process is for the CFC to get their arses in gear and mail you out the actual licence.
 
"...laws are written such that..." You fall under all laws, at all times, everywhere. Ontario MNR's policy assumes that if you're in the bush with a firearm, you're hunting. You must have a hunting licence. Even if you're out plinking. Having targets set up in a safe place will likely make this go away though. You do need to know exactly what is behind the backstop for several miles too.
There are lots of municipalities (not all are around TO either) that have a 'no shooting' by-law too. You'll have to either ask at the municipality office or look up the by-laws on-line. Most townships etc have them on-line now. The list of municipalities that allow Sunday hunting is in the hunting regs. Also on-line. There's no point asking the OPP, the CFO or the CFC.
The .223, for unknown reasons, is allowed for deer hunting. So if you're out shooting make sure your bullets are varmint or target bullets.
 
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