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I did a search but likely said something wrong.
It is possible, easy and or inexpensive to ream a .223 stamped barrel, the Savage Axis bbl, to the .223 Wylde? Is there anyone in the Western GTA you would recommend if it is possible?
Maybe I should first ask if the .223.Wylde chamber allows dead safe chamber pressures when firing either commercial .223 Rem or 5.56 NATO mil surp stuff? I think I read that somewhere and would like some feedback, especially if you have done this.
TIA

EDIT; MISTAKENLY STATED .224 VALKYRIE WHEN I THINK .223 WYLDE IS THE PROPER CARTRIDGE?
 
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wallythacker said:
I did a search but likely said something wrong.
It is possible, easy and or inexpensive to ream a .223 stamped barrel, the Savage Axis bbl, to the .224.Valkyrie? Is there anyone in the Western GTA you would recommend if it is possible?
Maybe I should first ask if the .224.Valkyrie chamber allows dead safe chamber pressures when firing either commercial .223 Rem or 5.56 NATO mil surp stuff? I think I read that somewhere and would like some feedback, especially if you have done this.
TIA
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The Valkyrie case has nothing to do with the .223/5.56 NATO. You cannot shoot .223 in Valkyrie.

Are you thinking of the.223 Wylde chamber, which is designed to allow either .223 or 5.56 ammunition to be used with excellent results?

I suppose that a Savage Axis barrel could be reworked to Valkyrie. What is the rifling twist? Unless it is a quick twist barrel, only varmint weight bullets would work. A .223 bolt head would have to be changed.
 
Late night/early morning brain misfire

Yes, of course I meant .223 Wylde. I have a fair bit of Norinco 5.56 I may be forced to run through my Axis the way these bans are going. I'm likely in the same boat as some of you, 1 ban away from losing all my rifle use. That would suck.
 
The .223/5.56 issue is in the specified dimensions in the throat area of the chamber.
If you feel that you want a Wylde chamber in your barrel, it would be a simple matter of turning in a Wylde reamer.
 
I did some work with Savage when the introduced a new rifle and switched from 1;12 to 1:9. I suggested a 1:8 with a Wylde chamber.

Their engineer thought 1:9 would be ok, and gave me some prototype barrels in 1:9 to test with 80gr Sierra bullets. Even in the winter, the 1:9 stabilized the long bullets.

The sample barrels had standard SAAMI chambers. I had to use a throating reamer to change the throat a bit to to take the long bullets. I urged the Wylde chamber, but the lawyer said it was hard to defend if there was a problem. I think they decided to go with a SAAMI case dimension and a NATO throat.

If so, your Axis is fine the way it is.
 
Ganderite said:
I did some work with Savage when the introduced a new rifle and switched from 1;12 to 1:9. I suggested a 1:8 with a Wylde chamber.

Their engineer thought 1:9 would be ok, and gave me some prototype barrels in 1:9 to test with 80gr Sierra bullets. Even in the winter, the 1:9 stabilized the long bullets.

The sample barrels had standard SAAMI chambers. I had to use a throating reamer to change the throat a bit to to take the long bullets. I urged the Wylde chamber, but the lawyer said it was hard to defend if there was a problem. I think they decided to go with a SAAMI case dimension and a NATO throat.

If so, your Axis is fine the way it is.
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My son has one of those rifles that you throated, Ganderite , it was given to him.by my older brother who aquired it from you . Yup it does stabilize the 80 grain bullets, and very well I might add!
Cat
 
Ganderite said:
I had to use a throating reamer to change the throat a bit to to take the long bullets.
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so essentially you have a long throat 223, 1:9 and it shoots 80 gr'ers accurately?
iydm, what was your new oal? and velocity?
Currently I've been sticking to 69 gr with 1:9, may just try some heavier
 
redshooter said:
Anyone reading this, don't get the idea 1 in 9 twist Savage Rifles will stabilize an 80 hpbt, yours may, but smart money is on it will not.
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The rifles Ganderite is talking about were longer barreled BT112 single shots, not a lot of them around.
We push them pretty fast and I don't know if a 22 or 24 inch barrel will do it.
They are also not a short action so have lots of room for a li ger bullet, something a magazine rifle might have problems with .
I also have a Sportco that was built by Jim Dugan with a 1:8 twist, 30" Krieger and it handles the 80's as well.
Cat
 
prezactly why I queried about cartridge oal and velocity
my rifle has lots of lead and can mag-feed rounds seated as long as reasonable to have neck support for the bullet
also have some 77 gr on hand but never tried yet due to 1:9 barrel
 
I figured that, but I just want to make sure some of the rookies understood that Ganderite's talking about unique rifles.

That said, we are talking Savage, I know a few people that swear that their 1 in 9 shot 75 A-Max well, and they might be need to be spun even faster than most 80's. While I've had a 1 in 9 savage that had trouble with 68gr Hornady Match in really cold weather...iirc, something that stabilized fine in warm weather anyway.

77's should be fine, at least above -20...
 
I have an 'older' RAR (ca 2015) that has 1:8 and I've found that I get best accuracy with Hdy 73g ELD and Nosler 77g Match 'commercial ammo'. Usually ca MOA out to the 175-yds my range has, and I'm not a 'Great Shot' :rolleyes: . The 'lighter '50-ish' do OK and I've never had the 'Varmint' 35g bullets 'disintegrate'. But I haven't tried the V bullets in really cold weather.
 
Ganderite said:
I did some work with Savage when the introduced a new rifle and switched from 1;12 to 1:9. I suggested a 1:8 with a Wylde chamber.

Their engineer thought 1:9 would be ok, and gave me some prototype barrels in 1:9 to test with 80gr Sierra bullets. Even in the winter, the 1:9 stabilized the long bullets.

The sample barrels had standard SAAMI chambers. I had to use a throating reamer to change the throat a bit to to take the long bullets. I urged the Wylde chamber, but the lawyer said it was hard to defend if there was a problem. I think they decided to go with a SAAMI case dimension and a NATO throat.

If so, your Axis is fine the way it is.
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Thank you. I trust the knowledge from the community here. It's good to know the ammo I have is going to be safe and useful in my Axis, which for an inexpensive gun, I love it!
 
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