22lr. Ammo Update

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Hi Everyone
I had just emailed Asmir at Tesro yesterday on their update for Sk and RWS 22lr ammo for Tesro.
Asmir quick to get back to me with an update. RWS Target week of approximately March 28th.-April 1st.
SK ammo expected sometime in June.
Regards George
 
Just an FYI. RUAG which has just recently been bought by Beretta is the company that controls Lapua and RWS ammunition so theres going to be new Canadian importers and I suspect it will be Stoeger since theyre already the canadian importer of Beretta. Not sure what this will do too supplies but who knows till the s..t hits the fan.
 
Just an FYI. RUAG which has just recently been bought by Beretta is the company that controls Lapua and RWS ammunition so theres going to be new Canadian importers and I suspect it will be Stoeger since theyre already the canadian importer of Beretta. Not sure what this will do too supplies but who knows till the s..t hits the fan.

Beretta Holding has acquired RUAG Ammotec, maker of RWS ammo as well as other products. This has nothing to do with Lapua.
 
Beretta Holding has acquired RUAG Ammotec, maker of RWS ammo as well as other products. This has nothing to do with Lapua.

Im only repeating what was told too me by a very knowledgable person whos been in the business his entire life. I cant say for sure but just forwarding what I was told. You could very well be correct and it wouldnt suprise me. You seem to know everything and Im not being a smart aXX.
 
I am the source of the information that "Longstud" forwarded. If the information is incorrect I am totally responsible. I have sent my contact an email asking for clarification and will let you know once I have a response. Probably Monday.

Daniel Banting
 
My friend "Longstrup" began a thread recently in which he quite openly attempted to "open up a can of worms". ( a fine thread by the way that should not be allowed to die on the vine ). I had NO intentions of opening up any container of invertebrates but it appears I may have unintentionally done so. As Longstrup alluded to I was involved in the firearms industry for all of my adult life. I was not only involved professionally but I tried to be an adept student of it's history and disciplines.

It is a result of the industries convoluted history that has resulted in the MISINFORMATION I had supplied to Longstrup being published on a public forum. I will do my best to try and unravel why my thinking was incorrect.

During the last half century the firearms/ammunition business has changed dramatically. What we all once accepted as independent free standing companies ie Winchester, Remington etc. have all become subsidiaries of large ( sometimes monster ) holding companies. There are very few household names that are not.

Sako is an example of that immersion. Now owned by the Beretta Group, Sako at one time had it's own ammunition manufacturer. The ammunition component was sold to "Vammas" in the mid 90s. Vammas are the parent company of Lapua currently.

I "think" my misconception came about due to my memory of Lapua working in conjunction with Sako during the development of their proprietary cartridge the .338 Lapua. Erroneously, my memory was of Sako's previous involvement with the manufacture of ammunition. ( either forgetting or being unaware of the fact that it had been sold ). In any case I had made that presumption and as Glenn has pointed out it was/is incorrect.


This subject was actually spawned by a conversation I was having with a good friend of mine ( who will remain nameless and blameless ) who is involved with the Beretta family. Our conversation was focused mainly on the acquisition by Beretta of the Holland & Holland company. As an admirer of that famed gun maker, I was pleased to hear that they had been bought by Beretta. With that corporate stability it should insure the long and illustrious history of that iconic label to continue. At the time there was only brief mention of the Beretta group buying RUAG. The rest was simply a product of my own imagination.

I am truly sorry for any confusion, I may have caused. Although I tried to be brief in my explanation, the companies involved have very complex histories that space does not allow complete accuracy.
 
Sako is an example of that immersion. Now owned by the Beretta Group, Sako at one time had it's own ammunition manufacturer. The ammunition component was sold to "Vammas" in the mid 90s. Vammas are the parent company of Lapua currently.

To clear any confusion, Vammas is not associated with Lapua.

Lapua is owned by the Nammo Group. Nammo Schönebeck GmbH in Germany manuctures Lapua and SK rimfire ammo. The subsidiary Nammo Lapua Oy manufactures centerfire ammo in Finland.

The Nammo conglomerate is an international aerospace and defence products enterprise, which manufacturers all kinds of munitions.
 
I suppose in trying to be brief, I have once again not fully expressed myself.

You are correct Glenn in that it IS the "Nammo" group that should be referenced when speaking of Lapua/SK ammunition. My reference to "Vammas" who sold their munitions manufacturing, or at least part of it, TO "Nammo" was to simply establish a time line to those changes that have occurred over the last half century or more. Perhaps too much focus on history rather than current status.

My posting above was only to try and outline the less than simple corporate changes throughout my lifetime and experience that resulted in me providing less than accurate information.

Now that you have made it abundantly clear who makes what, I can now rest assured that the of the readers of this thread are properly and fully informed. Thank You.
 
Well I dont know anyone that hasnt made a mistake and with all that youve done and accomplished, Im of the thinking no appologies are required. Wish there was more people that contributed as much as you have in an illustrious career from very humble beginnings. Such a broad experience in so many shooting platforms and great at all of them. A true AMBASSADOR to shooting sports. My local club members speak of you often, even though you probably only shot there a dozen or less times. Remarkeable man in so many ways. Thanks Daniel for being who you are and I feel extremely fortunate to have crossed paths on my journey through life. Blessed
 
As the Lapua/SK/VihtaVuori importer we wish to confirm that RUAG has nothing to do with the NAMMO Group of which the aforementioned are a part.
VAMMAS was sold to Lapua. Sako was not involved in .338LM development. We worked for 6 years to get it into the Canadian Armed Forces as the Medium Range Sniper Rifle Round. It is based on the .416 Rigby and the project was started by the Research Armament Co. to develop a longrange sniper round and then Lapua redesigned the case starting in 1985 and it was introduced in 1987.

We do agree that the history with all the mergers-acquisitions are quite complicated!

Thanks grauhanen, once again you show a lot of knowledge on all things rimfire+!

Regards,

Peter
 
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