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Right, cryptic title.
OK, I don't reload....yet. I have seen stuff that states 243 brass and be reformed to 6.5 creedmore to help cut back the cost of reloading the 6.5 creedmore. Is it so? Or should a new B14 be in 308 to keep my life (as a newbe reloader) simple.

Also

Can anyone suggest a non bank busting bipod?

Thank You
 
It can certainly be done. Here is a thread detailing what one person did. Making brass from commonly available offerings are one of the reasons I had a 6.5x47 built. I have successfully made brass from 22-250 for it and it's an option if brass is ever hard to find.


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For a bipod I have a Rio Rand 6-9 inch that I got on Amazon.ca. It is under $30 and works just fine. I am quite impressed with it and a lot of others are as well. Check it out.
 
FYI, brass for popular options like the 6.5 Creedmoor is no more then other popular chamberings like the 243, 308 so I wouldn't bother trying to wildcat.

The cost of dies to make this happen would buy you alot of brass. Don't get me wrong, wildcatting is a hoot and many advanced reloaders make all sorts of brass from other cases... but since you are new to reloading, why bother.

I can certainly help with all the tools and components to get you into the 6.5 CM inexpensively.

Harris is where I would suggest a good entry for a bipod be....

Jerry
 
Hitzy said:
Last batch of Hornady 6.5CM I got at Tradex for $80/100. Cheaper then most standard offerings.
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and, before some yahoo decides to says Hornady brass is crap, I will just put out that I am STILL on my first 200 pieces. 50 have been reloaded 14x, 100 have been reloaded 9x and 50 have been reloaded 8x. The ONLY problem I have had is with me being a bit careless when raising the ram on the press and the case isn't in the shellholder all the way. I lost 2 pieces due to my carelessness. I still have 198 waiting in the wings brand new out of the 400 I bought from Jerry. I'll have to put a new barrel on the rifle before I wear out the brass.
 
rick357 said:
and, before some yahoo decides to says Hornady brass is crap, I will just put out that I am STILL on my first 200 pieces. 50 have been reloaded 14x, 100 have been reloaded 9x and 50 have been reloaded 8x. The ONLY problem I have had is with me being a bit careless when raising the ram on the press and the case isn't in the shellholder all the way. I lost 2 pieces due to my carelessness. I still have 198 waiting in the wings brand new out of the 400 I bought from Jerry. I'll have to put a new barrel on the rifle before I wear out the brass.
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Some Hornady brass is crap for sure lol.
The 6.5CM is their baby, so they make it very carefully. The batches I bought had drilled flasholes which I have only seen from Norma, saves having to prep that part. Weight was very consistent as well.
 
My experience was a little different. The Hornady Creedmoor brass I had sucked. The primer pockets opened up after 4x firings. The Lapua brass I’ve been using is now at 17x firing and is showing no signs of slowing down.
 
prevost12 said:
My experience was a little different. The Hornady Creedmoor brass I had sucked. The primer pockets opened up after 4x firings. The Lapua brass I’ve been using is now at 17x firing and is showing no signs of slowing down.
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Not a sign of that on my HRN 6.5CM brass.

I have a bunch of Lapua in .223, .308, and 6.5CM waiting while I continue to use my original .223 PRVI/PPU, Hornady 6.5CM, and PRVI/PPU .308. I have purchased 4 to 5 boxes of each in Lapua on various sales, under the erroneous impression that the brass I was currently using NFG and was going to fall apart after 3, or 4 or, 'you might actually get 5 reloads out of it' type crap on here and other reloading/shooting forums. Most of my PRVI .223 brass is up into the high teens to very low twenties of reloads. I finally had to cull one set of 50 due to a neck split during neck bushing resizing. That particular reload was at 23x and I dumped that entire 50. The rest are still working just fine at this point. My PRVI .308 brass is hanging in, in the low to mid teens of reloads. Unfortunately I was reloading for two different rifles for a while and taking it back to SAAMI minimums with full length resizing on some of it. I think that stuff is probably dodgy due to excess body stretching and possible body thinning just above the web, and I am considering junking it. Fortunately I put one of the two .308's into semi-retirement but the other hasn't seen a lot of use for a while either as I have been out shooting the 6.5CM instead. The Hornady 6.5 brass is in the high singles to very low teens for number of reloads as I mentioned previously. My PRVI 300WM is in the high singles to very low teens as well and I have never used anything other than this in that rifle.

My take on it all is now, hmm, sounds possible but unless it makes sense and I see signs of it for myself . . .

As well, I think that some people treat brass they think is crappy, well, like crap, and if it doesn't work out, well it was just junk to begin with so . . .

And one final observation/note is that Lapua 6.5CM is SR pocket so if you are running hot loads it can withstand the higher pressures better.

Depending on the bullet, and range, I run my reloads at medium going up to pretty warm on the lighter bullets just to see where they work. I have just been testing the Hornady 147gr ELD-M and so far it has been spectacular with H4350 at around 2630fps, at least out to 500m. My next loading will be going up and finding out what it can on it way towards 2850+ fps. I don't expect to get that far but I'll let the ammo tell me where to quit.
 
I converted 243 into 6.5 CM brass when all you could get was Hornady,
I wouldn't bother now and just grab Lapua brass and call it a day. The work required just wasn't worth it and using commercial 243 brass I had to toss most my brass after 3 firings due to loose primer pockets.
 
Hitzy said:
Some Hornady brass is crap for sure lol.
The 6.5CM is their baby, so they make it very carefully. The batches I bought had drilled flasholes which I have only seen from Norma, saves having to prep that part. Weight was very consistent as well.
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OK, note taken. I never 'knew' that Hornady had such a bad reputation with some of their brass. Has this changed? Not that I am planning on buying any more brass since I have lots available, except for some more PRVI/PPU 300WM. I only have 150 and nothing waiting on the shelf. One of these days I'll settle on a bullet for the 6.5mm. Then I can order up some 300WM brass at the same time.

I pretty much ran everything with 1F when I first started out and found that out of most of the random assortment of brass, most of which was Winchester or Remington, some PPU/PRVI and Hornady; the PRVI out of that stuff seemed to work better overall. It also had more weight to it which equals more brass. It wasn't long before I started buying it new.
I managed to drink the 6.5 Kool-aid and I started to order parts for a 6.5CM build. The only reason I initially bought the Hornady 6.5CM brass was that Jerry had it in bulk quantity for a decent price, I couldn't get anything else, I didn't feel like resizing Lapua 22-250 or .308 into 6.5CM, and I wanted a significant quantity to be able to eliminate a variable and concentrate more on what the rifle liked to spit downrange. Did I mention that I couldn't get anything else at the time? HRN 6.5CM it was! I have been using it ever since in this rifle and it has worked out great.
 
6 X fired Hornady. Look good so far.

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rick357 said:
OK, note taken. I never 'knew' that Hornady had such a bad reputation with some of their brass. Has this changed? Not that I am planning on buying any more brass since I have lots available, except for some more PRVI/PPU 300WM. I only have 150 and nothing waiting on the shelf. One of these days I'll settle on a bullet for the 6.5mm. Then I can order up some 300WM brass at the same time.

I pretty much ran everything with 1F when I first started out and found that out of most of the random assortment of brass, most of which was Winchester or Remington, some PPU/PRVI and Hornady; the PRVI out of that stuff seemed to work better overall. It also had more weight to it which equals more brass. It wasn't long before I started buying it new.
I managed to drink the 6.5 Kool-aid and I started to order parts for a 6.5CM build. The only reason I initially bought the Hornady 6.5CM brass was that Jerry had it in bulk quantity for a decent price, I couldn't get anything else, I didn't feel like resizing Lapua 22-250 or .308 into 6.5CM, and I wanted a significant quantity to be able to eliminate a variable and concentrate more on what the rifle liked to spit downrange. Did I mention that I couldn't get anything else at the time? HRN 6.5CM it was! I have been using it ever since in this rifle and it has worked out great.
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270Win was bad stuff for separating mid case on very few firings, sombody on here posted pics a while back. Probably a manufacturing error starting with the wrong weight blanks. I picked up a few of these at the range I watched a guy fire new out of the box. He didn't load so I got them, they looked ready to seperate after 1 firing, bright ring around the middle of the case. When I weighed them they were lighter then 243Win brass I compared them to.
 
I have a 100 hornady in 6.5 cm,it has bin good so far with about 6 firings on them,I am careful not to bump shoulders on them and haven't shot any hot loads threw them.I also blew out some 22-250 rem. remington and lapua brass with cream of wheat,just because I had some and no more 22-250 rifle,they are standing up so far.I converted some 7-08,243 and 308 to 6.5 cm just to experiment.The 7-08 brass worked the best,it was remington.Had to turn necks on the 243 (lapua) & 308 brass(lapua).
 
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