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Time has been kind to the 30/30. That can't be said for the 25/35. With older cartridges getting new life in today's markets can the 25 compare to the dirty 30 when used for deer?
 
No the 25-35 does not compare favorably to the 30-30 . The 117 gr bullet of the 25-35 just doesn't keep up to the 150 or 170 gr gr bullet from the 30-30.
 
rokoro said:
No the 25-35 does not compare favorably to the 30-30 . The 117 gr bullet of the 25-35 just doesn't keep up to the 150 or 170 gr gr bullet from the 30-30.
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I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss it out of hand. With modern bullets, if you could get velocities up fairly high, you could approach 243 power, which is sufficient for deer. The 25-35 doesn't generate enough recoil that pointed bullets would pose a risk, I think, and if the OP were worried about that, use one of the many fine ballistic tips out there. You have to keep in mind that, like the 30-30, the 25-35 was designed solely as a smokeless cartridge. The thing is, could he get them moving fast enough to open up?
 
Hornady's 117 gr. soft point opens very well at .25-35 WCF velocities. The .25-35 I had (model 94 20" carbine) was also a lot more accurate than the .30-30 I owned. Of course it could have been the individual rifle also. For deer the .25-35 WCF will work just fine.

Darryl
 
I don't have a dog in this fight yet. I feel I need a 30/30 but the 25/35 just looks so much better and is off the beaten road which I like. Ive seen what my 25/06 can do and at distances that would compare to hunting distances favoring the 25/35 power. I'd use round nose or flat nose in either. Either would be open sighted so shots would not be approaching 100 yards
I have heard Hornady was again loading it but haven't seen proof
 
brybenn said:
I don't have a dog in this fight yet. I feel I need a 30/30 but the 25/35 just looks so much better and is off the beaten road which I like. Ive seen what my 25/06 can do and at distances that would compare to hunting distances favoring the 25/35 power. I'd use round nose or flat nose in either. Either would be open sighted so shots would not be approaching 100 yards
I have heard Hornady was again loading it but haven't seen proof
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I thought about trying it too before I got bored and sold off he gun.
From what j read the 2535 is about the border on the low end of what can and should kill deer.
 
.25-35 has a reputation for accuracy, and modest recoil.
I know of two folks who used .25-35s very successfully. They were accomplished shots.
LeverRevolution type ammunition could compensate for less power than the .30-30.
 
I knew one old guy who lived up around Athabasca about 30 years ago who trapped , logged and commercially fished for a living , not many of those left . He had an older Winchester 94 in 25-35 that he bought used when he got back from fighting the Nazis in 1946 . He took an awful lot of game with that rifle , but used his heavy rifle for Moose ........... that was a Remington Model 14 ? pump in 30 REM , God I'm old lol .
Like the folks that Tiriaq mentions , Nick was a very good shot and didn't shoot until he had a good opportunity . Used properly , the 25-35 is still a decent deer cartridge .
As others mentioned , I thought I read about Leverevolution ammo for the 25-35 , that would definitely up it's performance
 
I'm in two minds about a 3030! ideally I want a cheap one to pop up but in the mean time I don't shoot my 375 near enough as I want, but more because its a bit harder to find stuff for, while I have healthy stock pile, I wonder if I had tht 3030 , that id actuallyu use it more and hunt it often a the winnies an marlins suit the hunting to a tee...
whats the go with these take off models?
the henrys and puma or rossi etc? I think il get one of those to bash around the bush!
 
Papaclaude said:
I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss it out of hand. With modern bullets, if you could get velocities up fairly high, you could approach 243 power, which is sufficient for deer. The 25-35 doesn't generate enough recoil that pointed bullets would pose a risk, I think, and if the OP were worried about that, use one of the many fine ballistic tips out there. You have to keep in mind that, like the 30-30, the 25-35 was designed solely as a smokeless cartridge. The thing is, could he get them moving fast enough to open up?
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Its not necessarily the recoil that will chain a magazine, setting the rifle down too hard on the but or dropping it with pointy slugs in the tube is a risk nobody should take unless the tube mag was designed for pointed bullets like Remington model 14's were.
 
I met an old Native guy from the Chilcotin at the care home my mom was in.

Asked him if he did lots of hunting in his younger days.

I asked him if he shot any grizzlies?

"Yup, shot lots of grizzlies."

"What did you use, a 30-30?"

"Nope, 25-35, shoot 'im right here," he replied, pointing to his chest just below the armpit.
 
I handload for a guy with a 25-35. 117 hornady rn at around 2000 fps. I get about 4 inch groups at 100 with peeps which is better than I can do with my 30-30.
He shot a muley with it last fall and said it folded that deer like it was hit with a 7mm mag
If I could trade my 3030 for one I wouldn't think twice.
 
Nice to see the 25-35 making a return. Hornady making ammo although Winchester also make the odd batch. Winchester have been selling this year 94's chambered in the calibre.
 
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