257 weatherby magnum-recoil?

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hey guys,love the site!I have recently just finished my PAL and CORE training and I'm currently browsing for a moose/deer rifle while I wait for my PAL to come back.I have only ever shot a gun once and it was a 270win.I have had some shoulder issues in the past and when I shot the 270,I found the shoulder was fine.Now I have a great opportunity for a 257 weatherby magnum for a great price.I was just wondering what kind of recoil I should expect?Only problem is I only have the 270 to compare it too.Hope its not a dumb question,I know ammo is more expensive.Any feedback is muchly appreciated!:)
 
magnumitis?Not sure what that is to be honest.:)I'm not looking for a cannon,just something that will do the job.The gun was offered to me by a relative,hence the sweet deal.
 
I think you should ask in the General Firearms Discussion forum, but I'm here at the moment so this is what I think: First, a lot depends on the weight of the rifle, the recoil pad, and the way it fits you. Comparative recoil forces can be found on the web, but are only useful in general terms. Personally, the 257 Wby. that Ive shot was a pussycat. I'm currently using a 25-06 with a long bbl. on a Ruger #1B and getting better velocities than those pubblished for the 257 Wby. with a 24" bbl. and it's about as easy and comfortable as can be.
Either cartridge is perfectly adequate for moose and elk if you hit them in the right place, and of course that's true for any rifle/cartridge.
If it's a good buy get it. If for any reason you decide you don't like it just sell it and try again, and there's always a market for weatherbys. It will be expensive to buy factory ammo, but if you can start handloading the cost goes way down.
 
"...a dumb question..." That'd be the one not asked.
Have a look for .270 Weatherby Mag ammo first. Adding the word Weatherby to anything increases the price. Wholesale Sports wants $65.99 per 20 .257 Wby Mag. $18.99 per 20 for .270 Win.
The felt recoil will be a wee bit more due to the higher velocity with like bullet weights, but not enough to matter. A good recoil pad will tame the felt recoil.
 
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I would do your absolute best to try and shoot the rifle first, even if you can only scare up one round. I have shot .300 ultra mags that don't bother me, and yet had a .25-06 that I considered uncomfortable. Stocks fit people very differently, and there are very different kinds of recoil, some find high velocity uncomfortable, some heavy bullets uncomfortable. The long and short of it is, see if it bothers you. You would easily be able to sell the .257 to at least make back your investment if you couldn't handle it, but would that upset the family member???
 
I wish I was able to shoot it first,unfortunately its about a 15 hour drive away.My uncle is having a brain tumour removed,recently purchased the gun and is thinking his shooting days are behind him.To be honest I'm more concerned about a quick recovery than the rifle but would cherish it all the same.He joked that a frying pan full of moose steaks would pay the debt.:D
I guess I cant really call it a great opportunity when a relatives health is the reason I would be getting the gun for next to nothing.I'm hoping he gets to keep it.
 
northrunner,
As I suggested before felt recoil often depends at least as much on the weight, fit and fittings of the rifle as on the caliber. The 257 Wby. is a great cartridge, and you can't possibly lose by taking posession of this rifle.

Cost? If you don't shoot more than a lot of hunters you'll never notice the cost after the original shock. If you want to shoot a lot you'll soon be handloading anyway, so it's still a win-win situation.

Quit fretting and just do it man! :D
 
I'm currently using a 25-06 with a long bbl. on a Ruger #1B and getting better velocities than those published for the 257 Wby. with a 24" bbl
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I'm calling BS on this published load data for the .257wby is faster then the .25-06 and the 24'' barrel compared to the 26'' tube has been proven to only slow loads down by 48fps. Food for thought there are loads using the 100gr barnes tsx in .257wby that cross the chronograph at 3900fps I don't think your .25-06 can even touch that.

The .257wby is an amazing cartridge it can be loaded with 75gr vmax of yotes and 100gr TSX of moose its the one caliber that can do it all. The down side is the ammo cost so reloading might be a future hobby you should look at. The .257wby out preforms the .270 win in all aspects using the same weight bullets and does it with less recoil.
 
I have a Ruger in 25-06, Winchester in .270 win, and a Rem in 257 Wby Mag.
The 25-06 has very little recoil, is fun to shoot, and Federal Blue box 117gr is $26.00
The .270 Has more kick than 25-06 and Federal Blue box 130gr $16.00
Tha 257 Wby Mag has more kick than the .270 win and Wby ammo 115gr is $60.00

I reduced the kick of the .270 by installing a Limbsaver on it. Before the Limbsaver, it would turn my shoulder black and blue with the original hockey puck it had as a pad. Now I can shoot it all day long. The 257 Wby has an R3 pad on it and it does carry a big boom, but is just a little more than the .270.

The recoil pad can make a huge difference in recoil felt.

In my opinion, unless you have a lot of JINGLE to spend, go with the .270 or even a .308.
 
IMO, the recoil isn't too bad, but it is pretty "snappy". I took my rifle to the range for the first time last fall and began flinching - so my groups suffered horribly as a result - sigh. :redface: Back to the old live/dummy round exercise. :rolleyes:
 
promac said:
IMO, the recoil isn't too bad, but it is pretty "snappy". I took my rifle to the range for the first time last fall and began flinching - so my groups suffered horribly as a result - sigh. :redface: Back to the old live/dummy round exercise. :rolleyes:
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gommee said:
The recoil pad can make a huge difference in recoil felt.
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Think about replacing your recoil pad, you will be glad you did it. If I had not done it on the .270, the gun would be a safe queen or sold by now.
 
srt4u2nv said:
I'm calling BS on this published load data for the .257wby is faster then the .25-06 and the 24'' barrel compared to the 26'' tube has been proven to only slow loads down by 48fps. Food for thought there are loads using the 100gr barnes tsx in .257wby that cross the chronograph at 3900fps I don't think your .25-06 can even touch that.

The .257wby is an amazing cartridge it can be loaded with 75gr vmax of yotes and 100gr TSX of moose its the one caliber that can do it all. The down side is the ammo cost so reloading might be a future hobby you should look at. The .257wby out preforms the .270 win in all aspects using the same weight bullets and does it with less recoil.
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Everybody knows that published data is only a general guide. The published data for 25-06 and 257 Wby. shows significant velocity gains in the Wby.

However, I've loaded a lot for the 25-06 with both a 24" and a 26" bbl.
Here are some admitedly 'apples and oranges' numbers, loads chronographed:
24" bbl. using H4831, Norma MRP (Reloader22) and IMR7828; best I could do without any signs of pressure and never exceeding top publiahed data was 3025 fps with 120 gr. bullets.
26" bbl. using IMR 7828, same 120 gr. bullet, ave. velocity 3280 fps.
That's a pretty significant gain for 2" more bbl. length, but not far out of line according to my experience with the 30-06 and 300 Wby., where significant gains can be made by burning a slower powder in a longer bbl.
**I haven't loaded lighter weight bullets than the 120's for a long time because we don't have varmints where I hunt. 100 grainers would be fine for our little Island blacktails, but the 120 Partitions and Hornadys shoot in the same place and very well, so what the hey.:)

We're kinda getting a bit off topic here, but it's all fun and the original poster sure doesn't seem to mind.:D
I still say that given the family connection and negligable cost he should grab the Wby. Provided of course that he keeps us informed.;)
 
that's all well and good I will be using 100gr TSX's for the most part but I have a load for 120gr bullet over 69grs of IMR7828 run over a crono at 3343fps 5 shot average out of a 24'' tube.
 
srt4u2nv said:
that's all well and good I will be using 100gr TSX's for the most part but I have a load for 120gr bullet over 69grs of IMR7828 run over a crono at 3343fps 5 shot average out of a 24'' tube.
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Right on! That's consistent with the info in my older Barnes manual which suggests 68 gr. IMR 7828 under a 115 gr. XFB at 3316fps.
When you can get around to it try the same load with a 26" tube and maybe a tad slower powder between H1000 and US869. A 10 inch drop-tube might help get it all in.
Please let us know the results.
 
Go for it.I`ve shot my friends .257 WM and loved it ! In fact ,that `s going to be my next gun.I found the recoil refreshing and snappy(as mentioned) but certainly more than acceptable(I think he has a LS recoil pad on it)...but then again ,I can shoot my .300 WSM all day long.

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