I've got a 30+ year old Interarms Mark X .270 and with hand loads so far the best I can get is just under an inch. Is this all I should expect or am I asking to much for 1/2" to 3/4" groups. It's not bedded or floated and the trigger breaks very clean at 6 lbs (yes I am thinking that maybe 3-4 lbs would be nice). I guess my big disappointment is that I can shoot 1" to 1 1/2" groups with cheap Federal blue box, and hand loads aren't much better.
.270 accuracy
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You are being honest, and most guns even tactical rifles, if 100% honesty comes into play shoot about 1 inch. I do not judge a rifle on a certain group that I got lucky and shot in the .3s or .2s.
I have shot a group of 20 thats when the truth comes out about the rifle and shooter.
I do have sub moa rifles that will shoot sub moa 20 shot groups, but they are F-class target and 100-300 BR rifles.
I think your doing great foir a factory rifle.
I have shot a group of 20 thats when the truth comes out about the rifle and shooter.
I do have sub moa rifles that will shoot sub moa 20 shot groups, but they are F-class target and 100-300 BR rifles.
I think your doing great foir a factory rifle.
This is only the second rifle I am reloading for, the first is my Rem SPS in 204, and it will shoot 1/2" to 5/8" groups all day long. I guess it spoiled me for being easy to load for. It will shoot this with 2 different powders and 3 different bullets.
I am going to try one more bullet with different primers and all the powders again for the 270 and then settle on something. And I usually shoot 3 shot groups until I find something that looks promising then load some more to check it out further, 5-10 shot groups.
I think my next gun will be a 6mmBR, then I will try to squeeze some accuracy.
I am going to try one more bullet with different primers and all the powders again for the 270 and then settle on something. And I usually shoot 3 shot groups until I find something that looks promising then load some more to check it out further, 5-10 shot groups.
I think my next gun will be a 6mmBR, then I will try to squeeze some accuracy.
Another thing to consider is that larger hunting calibers (larger than the .204) often need some distance to stabilize the bullet. Shoot your .204 at 200 yards, and then shoot the .270 at 200 and see what happens. I had a .243 that would shoot darn near the same size groups at 100 and 200, because the stupid bullets were not stabilized at the 100 mark yet, but got their acts together by the time 200 rolled around.
Just to note that the one group that I shoot .9" was with sierra match kings, which I can not hunt with, and the rest were 1.2" to 2" groups with TSX, TTSX and SST's. I think I will try some Accubonds or Bergers next. And our range goes to 200 meters so I will try some further shooting.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Contrary to popular myth--off the shelf hunting rifles rarely group under an inch--if they will consistently group 3-5 shots into 1.25 to 1.75" they are pretty good. That being said, with minor tweaking most will do in the 1" to 1.25" range.
I have only had two exceptions to this generalization. I had a Remington 700 classic in .250 Savage that was completely stock and would consistently group 5 into .75-1.0" (Imperial 100 grain factory ammo). The other was a Remington 700 stainless synthetic stock -30-06 that would consistently put 3-5 shots into 2.25 - 2.5" tried many different weights and makes of factory ammo and standard handloads.
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I have only had two exceptions to this generalization. I had a Remington 700 classic in .250 Savage that was completely stock and would consistently group 5 into .75-1.0" (Imperial 100 grain factory ammo). The other was a Remington 700 stainless synthetic stock -30-06 that would consistently put 3-5 shots into 2.25 - 2.5" tried many different weights and makes of factory ammo and standard handloads.
44Bore
Welcome to the real world. While thousands of factory issue sub-moa rifles exist on the internet I have seen few at the shooting range.
A 270 that prints 1 moa is an honest 450 yard rifle which btw is about 350 yards further than the skill of most hunters.
Welcome to the real world. While thousands of factory issue sub-moa rifles exist on the internet I have seen few at the shooting range.
A 270 that prints 1 moa is an honest 450 yard rifle which btw is about 350 yards further than the skill of most hunters.
X2!! There are factory rifles out there that will consistently print sub moa groups, but they are the exception, not the rule. To hear the drivel on the internet, you would think if your factory boomer does not shoot sub moa right from the get-go, there is something wrong with it. This is a fallacy that is perpetuated by the jokers who, during a range session, actually got lucky and shot one very small group. All of a sudden, they have a sub-moa rifle!! We have it very good these days. Factory ammo is far superior to any we had in the 50's & 60's. Reloading is quite popular, unlike back a few decades, when a person who reloaded his own ammo was regarded as a bit of a dangerous "nut" who was certain to disappear in a big explosion one day.
Firearms in general are a bit more accurate than they used to be, and of course, a dedicated rifleman has a number of options to wring out more accuracy from his pet smokepole. [bedding, aftermarket triggers, barrels, etc, etc] But as 'boo observed, If one has an unaltered factory rifle that actually does shoot MOA, it is good to go farther out than at least 80% of all hunters should be shooting at game. Regards, Eagleye.
Welcome to the real world. While thousands of factory issue sub-moa rifles exist on the internet I have seen few at the shooting range.
Here's one for ya
Savage 111 @ 100yrds with .270 110gr Vmax's. 10 shots into a 1" square. Pulled 2.
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I have a Browning .270 built in 1988. It looks like new and with some hand loading, I shoot about 1" at 100 yards and am very pleased at the pattern at 200. Mine is untouched and Simmons scoped. For a hunting rifle not a rifle built for the range, you should be proud, it has a lot to do with the shooter..
Here's one for ya
Flyers - and pulled shots - count in the real world too.
Shoot that 10 shot group over and over and you will see the so-called "pulled shots" fall into a much larger pattern with even dispersion.
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Only one of my rifles i would say is sub MOA and that is my Tikka T3 lite 22-250 shooting 52 gr bthp matchkings. And it is like my grandpa says (A hunter from way back and former conservation officer) when he checks his rifle before the season he staples a pie plate up and if he can hit it at 100 yards over the hood of the truck it is ready to go hunting. I see lots of guys get jumped on from a statement like mine. We are from a farm so please dont lecture me on safe backstops because he built his own range and there is no one around for miles.
