270 win 145 ELD-x overall lenght

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Working on a load for 270 win with the Hornady 145 ELD-X bullets tonight.Frustrated at the Hornady 10th edition manual (downloaded version to phone)Listing COL at 3.210" which seems very short to me?There is no cannulare in these bullets as well.Nosler lists similair bullet lenght at 3.320" I believe.What am i missing here?Or is this run short like this for a reason?

Thanks Tom
 
If you can find the length where it touches the lands, use the shorter of
this minus 20 thou or
the max length that will allow good feeding from your magazine box
Good as any place to start.
 
If you can find the length where it touches the lands, use the shorter of
this minus 20 thou or
the max length that will allow good feeding from your magazine box
Good as any place to start.

Thanks Buck
Thats the plan once I get some fired brass in this rifle to make a modified case.Just wanting some factory fresh rounds to use to start.The book list lenght is throwing me off.
 
If you can find the length where it touches the lands, use the shorter of
this minus 20 thou or
the max length that will allow good feeding from your magazine box
Good as any place to start.

Bang on. The only other thing is what sort of bullet is it....the neck needs to grab the bearing surface. So if your wanting long, your limited to magazine length, ogive, and if applicable boat tail.

Three simple tests.

The threaded cases, forget the manufacturer.

Taking a form fired case....cutting a slit in the neck up the shoulder...add desired bullet(should move rather easily)...chamber it super long....remove carefully and measure.

The third is the most primitive....take a cleaning rod...insert from muzzle with tape a loaded cartridge length at muzzle end, touch bolt face, sharpie mark on tape at muzzle...take your projectile, drop it in the chamber, lightly tap to engage lands----repeat measurement with rod from muzzle end to touch projectile, again mark. The distance between your two pen marks on the tape is your maximum overall. Pretty crude, right?
 
Regarding the cleaning rod approach, I have done this, but marked the cleaning rod by clamping two of the spring-steel paper clips (the ones that are a U-shaped piece of spring steel with the wire 'handles' that you use for prying apart the jaws. I had some small ones (less than a half inch long) and they worked well (had to carefully get them to grip the rounded rod without falling off). First I measured to the bolt face and applied the clip and then I put in the bullet and measured again, applied the clip and used calipers to measure distance between the 2 clips (taking care NOT to move the clips in the process). I would repeat this a few times to get a consistent length. My sense is that this approach would be more sensitive and repeatable than marking the rod.

The commercial bullet measure device is either Hornady or Stoney Point (was one and became the other, IIRC). Some people make their own by drilling a case and using a tap to thread it. Apparently it is some odd-ball thread, not common in North America, but the correct tap can be bought fairly cheaply on-line if you know the exact specs.
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The third is the most primitive....take a cleaning rod...insert from muzzle with tape a loaded cartridge length at muzzle end, touch bolt face, sharpie mark on tape at muzzle...take your projectile, drop it in the chamber, lightly tap to engage lands----repeat measurement with rod from muzzle end to touch projectile, again mark. The distance between your two pen marks on the tape is your maximum overall. Pretty crude, right?[/QUOTE]
 
The book OAL is just to give you an idea of what they bused for THEIR rifle.

Find and not the max length that will fit you mag. Chamber one at that length and see if it leaves rifling marks. If it does not, that is probably your best OAL.

If it leaves marks, seat deeper until it does not leave marks. Note that length. THAT is the OAL for that bullet in YOUR rifle.
 
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