30-06 loads for long throats -zg47

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Wondering if anyone has had good success loading for the long throat 30-06 rifles. Preferably fitting in the mag ;) Just for reference, the ZG 47 needs col of 3.45 to fit mag, and 3.6 to hit lands with a 180 Sierra sp. So hitting lands isn't really a good option.
 
Best you can do is to measure your loads for run-out - in other words, load as straight as possible - I have several rifles that show difference on 100 yard targets with only difference between loads being .003" runout or less, versus .004" runout or more. Not likely you know unless you actually measure it, although gross errors plainly visible seeing the bullet tip "wobble" as the loaded cartridge rolled along a flat surface - like on a sheet of glass or a mirror.
 
Wondering if anyone has had good success loading for the long throat 30-06 rifles. Preferably fitting in the mag ;) Just for reference, the ZG 47 needs col of 3.45 to fit mag, and 3.6 to hit lands with a 180 Sierra sp. So hitting lands isn't really a good option.

Is it grouping that badly? It's not a match rifle after all. If so, try even shorter OAL. Do a range say by 0.030-0.040 interval so you can evaluate which length seems to work best.
You might just find a sweet spot it likes.
 
Plenty of smart loaders have said don't worry about jump. I guess I just need to start believing it. I have found a load with the 165 ppu sp that is very good, shooting 1.5" for me which should translate to .75 for a good bench shooter ;) . This load was WAY off the lands.
 
I don't consider myself a "smart" loader - as a matter of fact, the opposite. So have had to try stuff and see what I get. A single 3 shot group proves nothing, statistically. 2 x 5 shot groups compared to 2 x 5 shot groups is starting to reveal truth about your rifle and load(s). From somewhere on Internet - perhaps the OCW directions - I lean towards the "A" and "B" round robin shooting to compare two loads - one shot of Load A at Target A, next load fired is Load B at Target B, third load fired is Load A at Target A, and so on. No one else has your rifle, your chamber, your bore condition, your scope - only you can work out which things make a difference, that matters for you.

I have never competed at target shooting, but have taken a lot of deer and a few elk. You want to be able to hit an 8 to 10" diameter area, first shot, every time. I believe 90% or more is the shooter, and 10% or less is the gear that he uses. I have seen really embarrassing "misses" and heard a thousand excuses from guys with $2000 rigs; and know fellows who take their deer and/or moose with cartridges left from their only box of ammo purchased 8 or 10 years previous.
 
I don't consider myself a "smart" loader - as a matter of fact, the opposite. So have had to try stuff and see what I get. A single 3 shot group proves nothing, statistically. 2 x 5 shot groups compared to 2 x 5 shot groups is starting to reveal truth about your rifle and load(s). From somewhere on Internet - perhaps the OCW directions - I lean towards the "A" and "B" round robin shooting to compare two loads - one shot of Load A at Target A, next load fired is Load B at Target B, third load fired is Load A at Target A, and so on. No one else has your rifle, your chamber, your bore condition, your scope - only you can work out which things make a difference, that matters for you.

I have never competed at target shooting, but have taken a lot of deer and a few elk. You want to be able to hit an 8 to 10" diameter area, first shot, every time. I believe 90% or more is the shooter, and 10% or less is the gear that he uses. I have seen really embarrassing "misses" and heard a thousand excuses from guys with $2000 rigs; and know fellows who take their deer and/or moose with cartridges left from their only box of ammo purchased 8 or 10 years previous.

Lol. I'm a guide. Seen guys miss by 20' at 100yds. ;)
 
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