.30 Carbine enough for deer?

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This may have been covered enough over the years but bear with me.

I am thinking of getting my M1 carbine rebarreled to NR. Part of the reason would be to handload hunting rounds and use it as a dogging gun. What is the verdict on using the .30 carbine for deer within 100 yards?

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looked it up in my Hornady manal;
"The 30 carbine is not a highly accurate or deadly round. Its primary use is as a defense weapon. As a hunting round, it should be limited to plinking and small game" (pg 377, end of first paragraph)

I wouldnt do it.
 
Yeah there are more suitable cartridges out there for deer, but I love how light and accurate these M1 carbines are so I was hoping to get it NR'd and dog with it. I guess I could use my SKS.
 
Shot a few as a youth with an M1 carbine. While it seemed to work better than one might think, it is pretty anemic compared to the majority of the rifles out there.
 
copey said:
No it is definitely not adequate... U will leave cripples in the hills and feed the coyotes
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Do you read palms too?
It's on the low side of deer cartridges, yes. But at one time 1000+ ft/pds was not req'd to shoot deer, eh.
I still have my Grandpa's go-to deer rifle; 22 Hornet in a Savage 219
Sometimes deer can be shot with less than a 338 Lapua...
 
Meh, I'd do it. But I'd make god damn sure of my shot. With that grain of bullet and the amount of FPS it's travelling at you aren't relying on shock to help kill the deer nearly as much as if you were using, say, a 300 WM. But then, you're a smart guy. You know that.

But hey, my dogging/close range rifle for deer this year is going to be a Mini-14 in .223 so maybe I'll post a thread about that and all the "Magnum or Die!" crowd will drift on over to my'n and take the heat off you. :D
 
Dorian Gray said:
Meh, I'd do it. But I'd make god damn sure of my shot. With that grain of bullet and the amount of FPS it's travelling at you aren't relying on shock to help kill the deer nearly as much as if you were using, say, a 300 WM. But then, you're a smart guy. You know that.

But hey, my dogging/close range rifle for deer this year is going to be a Mini-14 in .223 so maybe I'll post a thread about that and all the "Magnum or Die!" crowd will drift on over to my'n and take the heat off you. :D
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I've use a mini several times. Works just fine.
 
it will do the job with proper placement although id limit it to say 50 yards or what ever you feel conferrable with again all depends n the shooters ability's if you cant land a bullet in the heart/lungs area then go with less range.

although I don't agree with bubbaing a military rifle sell it and look for a NR plenty out there
 
tokguy said:
Do you read palms too?
It's on the low side of deer cartridges, yes. But at one time 1000+ ft/pds was not req'd to shoot deer, eh.
I still have my Grandpa's go-to deer rifle; 22 Hornet in a Savage 219
Sometimes deer can be shot with less than a 338 Lapua...
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I've seen a .22 hornet drop a deer no problem accuracy is key a .223" bullet through the heart beats a .338 through the guts
 
NB_GSXR said:
Yet another caliber designed for killing people in war yet somehow won't kill deer... Just sayin...
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Except the war these guns were designed for was governed by rules that dictated guns didn't kill but injured and maimed. The Hague Convention sets out direction for not using bullets that expand and the Geneva Conventions set out proper humanitarian treatment of injured soldiers. Injured soldiers were a bigger drain on resources to the enemy than dead soldiers, so the goal was indeed injury and not death. That being said, I can't see it not being fine for deer if you act responsibly and limit your shots to good ones. As well, choosing an appropriate bullets goes a long way. Can you get a premium hunting bullet that you could load to this cartridge??
 
Don't worry, I too am a Milsurp nut at heart, so I wouldn't bubba a good wartime produced one. Mine is a post war Plainfield one. Thanks for everyone's input. Chances are that I'm going to get it rebarreled anyway. I think it probably would suffice for deer with the right load. Like Mark K said, a handloaded Speer Gold Dot would likely do a good job. Hornady loads a factory 110 grain Critical defense aswell. I probably wouldn't take a crack at a deer with it unless it was a good clean broadside at 75 yards of less anyway.
 
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