I'm looking at purchasing a 30M1 carbine (US military issue) but I think the barrel length may be just a tad too short to keep it out of the restricted category. Being relatively new to gun collection I don't know the proper method of measuring the barrel length. If someone could enlighten me I would really appreciate it. From what I've read there are more restricted 30M1's kicking around than non restricted ones. I really want to get one because it was my favourite gun to plink with when I was a kid. I have the restricted licence but I want to be able to take it out camping as much as the rifle range. Thanks in advance for your help guys!
.30 M1 Carbine restricted?
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Good to know thanks for the info, so now I'm looking for a re-barreled 30M1 to avoid any hassles. I'll be sure to take a cleaning rod and a tape measure along with me when I find one nearby. What should I expect to pay for one in good firing condition?
I wish money was no object! I'm going to try and track down the guy that most likely has the one I used when I was a kid. Hopefully it is of the non restricted flavor and he is willing to part with it. I'm pretty sure it was legal because my step dad was pretty good about being legal and we used to take it out camping and shoot in a sand pit. Not really very legal with a restricted firearm even 20 years ago...
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- Alberta, let freedom reign!
I believe they make a non restricted length one no? Not really my area here but worth checking out maybe. Whatever you do, don't take a restricted rifle camping, that'll end you up in trouble one day or another.
EDIT: apparently Iver Johnson does. This one sold though, fast. http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=627282
I think all US military issue will be restricted, while several companies made post-war versions with spare parts that may be non-restricted. Not all of the newer ones are up to US military quality.
There are a few non-restricted M1 Carbines in Canada, as far as I know they are for the most part re-barrels. The Iver Johnson was a re-barrel, as well as my other Winchester non-restricted. I have heard of some gun stores that have the longer barrel, but cannot recall which one.
"....30 M1 Carbine restricted?..." Restricted since 1 Jan., 1978. Back then, it was ok to put on an extension. At first, anything was ok as long as it was permanent. Lots of flash hiders and plain tubes got turned and silver soldered on. Then it was decided that an extension had to be rifled. Lots of beat up and not so beat up .303 barrels were sacrificed. The Socialist F**ks ended that with the current legislation.
"...Legal length is 19" correct?..." Any barrel longer than 18.5" will make it non-restricted. No non-restricted barrels are being made, by anybody, now.
"...they make a non restricted length one no?..." No milsurps, but Iver Johnson made some 19" barreled copies in 1979ish.
"...if money is no object..." Right. A carbine barrel isn't as simple as a bolt action. Gas piston housing is part of the barrel.
"...Legal length is 19" correct?..." Any barrel longer than 18.5" will make it non-restricted. No non-restricted barrels are being made, by anybody, now.
"...they make a non restricted length one no?..." No milsurps, but Iver Johnson made some 19" barreled copies in 1979ish.
"...if money is no object..." Right. A carbine barrel isn't as simple as a bolt action. Gas piston housing is part of the barrel.
The barrel length law of a minimum of 18.5 " for the m1 carbine, came in at least about 25 years ago. Prior to that the U.S. had sold off many surplus carbines that had the standard 18" barrel. Unfortunately a number of them were actually m2's ( FA ) with some parts removed to make them semi only. Then some people brought in FA parts & created a problem. Also some other people were welding on non barreled extensions to pass a loophole.
So the carbine barrel length was increased to 18.5 " to eliminate the problem.
well yes and NO
The ONLY difference between an m1 and an m2 carbine recievers is the 1 or 2 stamp
the whole idea of the m2 version was that they could convert ANY m1 carbine to select fire with the addition of the 7 or 8 parts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-J-uNcwnXo&feature=related
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While true that the M1 and M2 receivers are the same except for the number the gubberment considers them vastly different (the M1 being a fine albeit restricted semi-auto...the M2 being a straight up baby killer)...even the U.S. goes nuts about the M2 (including the parts w/o the receiver)...
I'm pretty sure all M2's fall under the FA or CA status...want to have some fun? (or lack of)...start a thread about M2's and watch all the tin foil hats come out (not dissing on anyone...just saying).
I'm pretty sure all M2's fall under the FA or CA status...want to have some fun? (or lack of)...start a thread about M2's and watch all the tin foil hats come out (not dissing on anyone...just saying).
Having had both years ago, there are some differences. Minor & not many but some.
For example on the M2 there was some milling done to accept the selector switch & spring . M1's, ( at least early ones ) did not have this milling done.
