302 british ?

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Had a guy ask me about this cartridge yesterday. I've never heard of it and can't seem to find it doing searches on the internet.

He said his buddy has a rifle chambered for this round and he has seen an old box with the term "302 British" on it.

Anyone got any info to educate me on this?

Thanks in advance.
 
I suspect .303 british. If you're not familiar, here's a few shake and bake facts:

I'm told it's the most used deer / moose taker in all of Canada, thanks to surplus Lee Enfield rifles in their hayday.

Chuck Hawks describes it as a supercharged 30-30, though it's ballistically slightly behind the 30.06, .308, and 7.62x54r

Originated from the days of blackpowder loaded cartridges
 
Thanks guys. I shoot a Lee Enfield No 4 Mk I and I'm also familiar with the 303 Savage.

This guy just seemed so sure about this, that I decided to look into it. Maybe he was pulling my leg.
 
Had to be a .303 british. A catridge designed to stop a calvary charge at 800 yards. By killing the horse. In various bullet weights it has even dropped elephants, in the hands of expert shots mind you. Talk about making shot placement count :)
 
Dukeoflawnchair said:
I suspect .303 british. If you're not familiar, here's a few shake and bake facts:

I'm told it's the most used deer / moose taker in all of Canada, thanks to surplus Lee Enfield rifles in their hayday.

Chuck Hawks describes it as a supercharged 30-30, though it's ballistically slightly behind the 30.06, .308, and 7.62x54r

Originated from the days of blackpowder loaded cartridges
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At 300 to 400 FPS I'd say it's a little behind a 30-06 alright, considering the '06 can launch a 220 grainer at the same velocity or faster then a 303 can launch a 180 grain pill. Don't get me wrong, I love the 303 but I can never understand why people even say they are close to an '06. Different class completely. However the 303 also outclasses the 30-30 by just as big a margin.
 
northwoodslivin said:
the 300 and something fps doesnt really make any difference in comparision. I would tend to think the ft/lbs would be the slight difference if anything.
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OK, how about 2418 ft/lbs compaired to 3315 ft/lbs.;) Almost 900 ft/lbs at the muzzle. That's equal to being shot with a 303 British, 44 Remington Revolver, and tapped with a little 32 Auto all at the same time.
 
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Hi-Standard said:
OK, how about 2418 ft/lbs compaired to 3315 ft/lbs.;) Almost 900 ft/lbs at the muzzle. That's equal to being shot with a 303 British, 44 Remington Revolver, and tapped with a little 32 Auto all at the same time.
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the chart I use shows the .303 brit down for 2420 ft/lbs and the 30-06 at 2913.

Ya sure.. we all know it is more powerful but both rounds are still kick ass rounds! :)
http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_ballistics_table.htm
 
northwoodslivin said:
the chart I use shows the .303 brit down for 2420 ft/lbs and the 30-06 at 2913.

Ya sure.. we all know it is more powerful but both rounds are still kick ass rounds! :)
http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_ballistics_table.htm
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They are both great rounds northwoodslivin ;), I was using Federals ballistics. They should be a little more up to date. The '06 although 100 years old, in modern comercial bolt action rifles can acheive just about the ballistic equivalent to the 7mm Magnum. Due to modern, slow burning powders, new bolt action rifles, and a straighter wall case and much larger case capacity than the 303, the '06 has been given a new lease on life. Now a 303 Epps in a P-14 or Ross action, now you're talkin'! :D Should be easy to achieve 308 Winchester ballistics.

http://www.federalpremium.com/balli...firearm=1&bc=0.474&muzzvel=2880&bulletwgt=180
 
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