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I picked up a p-14 303 a while back and borrowed a 303 round from a friend and tried it in the muzzle. It didn`t come close to going all the way in and when I pushed it, I got a nice imprint of the rifling on the bullet. Heading for the range next week so I bought a box of Remington ammo. Just out of curiosity, I tried one of them in the muzzle and it went all the was to the brass case with no effort. What gives?, is it possible that the ammo is a different size? Both rounds were factory. Does this mean that my barrel is worn out?
Please help, I`m worried, I just put a new stock from boyds on that rifle, Thought It was good when the frst bullet didn`t fit into the muzzle.
 
gerard488 said:
I picked up a p-14 303 a while back and borrowed a 303 round from a friend and tried it in the muzzle. It didn`t come close to going all the way in and when I pushed it, I got a nice imprint of the rifling on the bullet. Heading for the range next week so I bought a box of Remington ammo. Just out of curiosity, I tried one of them in the muzzle and it went all the was to the brass case with no effort. What gives?, is it possible that the ammo is a different size? Both rounds were factory. Does this mean that my barrel is worn out?
Please help, I`m worried, I just put a new stock from boyds on that rifle, Thought It was good when the frst bullet didn`t fit into the muzzle.
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Depend of the ogive of the bullet and how deep the bullet is seated in the case. factory ammo can differ from 1 brand to another. I am sure your bore is good, slugging your bore would tell you about the dimensions but again, since the first bullet you tried did't go far, your bore seems to be good.
Joce
 
If you pulled the bullet on the Remington ammunition you bought you would find the bullet forward of the crimping groove is the diameter of the lands and behind the crimping groove the bullet is groove diameter. Many 30-30 bullets are the same way .300 forward of the crimping groove and .308 behind the crimping groove.

You have also found out the bullet test is worthless unless you know the exact diameter of the bullet. The bullet test on an Enfield is also dependent on weather the barrel is 2, 4, 5 or 6 groove barrel.
 
P-14 rifle was Enfield-rifled: 5 grooves, lands and grooves equal width, deep grooves and Left-hand twist 1 turn in 10 inches.

It would be most unusual to encounter one which has been worn-out.

OTOH, Remington ammunition is loaded with a bullet with a very long ogive; that's the bad news. The GOOD news is that their bullets also are quite soft and tend to obturate (seal the bore) very efficiently.

Remington brass is nice for reloading and you will ALWAYS get your best accuracy from handloads. A point: be sure to use Ed's Famous O-Rings (or ponytail ties) on your ammo so that your brass fireforms correctly and perfectly to your chamber. This gives you perfect brass for handloading and it will last 5/8 of forever, too.

My own load for a 180 bullet is 38 grains of 4895 with a Sierra 180 Pro-Hunter seated to the overall length of a Mark VII Ball cartridge. It is a little bit slow but VERY accurate. If you need a load for a 150, try 40 grains of 4064 with a Hornady Spire Point 150, seated so the whole cannelure shows. My P-14 prints these into a single ragged hole at 100 yards.

Hope this helps.
 
smellie said:
I got a packet of 500 the other day for a buck.

BLACK ones, yet.

TACTICAL ponytail ties!!!!!!

WHAT is this world coming to???
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I know this is an odd question (and not trying to hijack here) but roughly what diameter are these pony tail ties?

I only ask because I was searching for some to try this on my No.1 MkIII but the only ones our local store had, fit very loosely on the base and in order to make certain they won't slide past the rim I'd have to twist them and double-loop 'em, if you catch my drift.

I'll keep looking for some smaller ones (not a lot of choice here) but I'm curious to hear the answer!

Thanks

NCBB

I'll add I have two daughters so I have my share of these ties floating around but none of theirs are small enough either (and I can't let 'em know my plans for their "pony hair ties").
 
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NorthCoastBigBore said:
I know this is an odd question (and not trying to hijack here) but roughly what diameter are these pony tail ties? I only ask because I was searching for some to try this on my No.1 MkIII but the only ones our local store had, fit very loosely on the base and in order to make certain they won't slide past the rim I'd have to twist them and double-loop 'em, if you catch my drift.
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The only ties I was able to find were also loose on my 303 cartridges and had to be doubled, but they worked just fine like that for me.
 
Our ED (Big Ed P-51) champions the use of proper O-rings.

I changed this to pony-tail ties because O-rings are 40 cents apiece here, pony-tail ties will do the job and they are 1 to 5 for a penny.

LOT of Scots in my background, you see!

(Grumble, grumble..... TACTICAL ponytail ties indeed......!)

(Gonna be TACTICAL TP next, mark my words......!)
 
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