.303 tracers?

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I have recently acquired some original paper packets of .303 tracers and would like to know more about them.
the paper packs read as follows

Cartridges
S.A. Ball
.303 inch

18 8 38


D.A.Q.Mk.VIII C.I.A.


Over the whole front of the package is stamped

Special for D.R.A. or P.R.A Use

Any info would be appreciated such as value date manufactured and such.
Merci beaucoup
 
How did you identify them as tracers? The "Special for DCRA or PRA Use" was usually on MkVII ball selected for match use. This ammo often had coloured bands on the case.
 
I was told they are tracer by the person who gave them to me, i assumed they knew what they were talking about. Are they Infact tracers as i have no intention of firing them, the coloured bands (purple) are present.Any more info would be appreciated.
 
Unless the box is incorrect those are not tracers. What paint markings are on the cartridges? If they are not painted, you have plain MK8 ball ammo. They used a lot of markings that might fool people these days into thinking they are tracers. They are likely not. We need the headstamp for the date, etc.
 
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pictures are impossible at this point but here is the headstamp

D A C

38

VII

the c is a symbol that Believe stands for C.I.A.
at least that is what was stamped on the packet

Dominion Arsenals
Mk7 Ball (Cordite)
1938
C is the "C broad arrow" for Canadian military goods:

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Sorry, not tracers, just plain OLD corrosive ball.
 
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does it look like this?
there are many different colors and strip patterns. different stripes/ color/ patterns are diffent years. some is match grade, and i THINK DAC was the only one to mark ammo like this

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tracer ammunition will have a G in the headstamp
AA PSA or Pomeroy ammunition on MkII pomeroy .303 ammo (1914-18)
B Buckingham incendiary, (later extended to all incendiary)
C Cordite propellant
D Drill (from 1928)
E Smoke discharger cartridge
F Semi Armour piercing
G Tracer
H Grenade discharger cartridge (from 1928)
K Brock incendiary (1914-18 only)
L Blank (from 1928)
O observation ammunition (from 1928)
P armour piercing early 1914-18
P practice ammunition (from 1928)
Q proof
R explosive
RC reduced charge 1914-18
S armour piercing early 1914-18
T Tracer "Sparklet" 1914-18
U inspectors dummy (from 1928)
W armour piercing
X Steel, special machine gun dummy cartridges (pre 1914)
Z Nitrocellulose propellant from 1916
 
This photo was used for a discussion about the diff between the 30/30 , .303Savage and the .303Brit...
Anyhow a .303brit tracer is on the far right

303savbrit.jpg
 
there is allso a DA 303 round that has a black band on the bottom of the base that signifies tracer. aircraft stuff i belive. i have seen mostly white/ red tip stuff, but there is orange/ purple aswell to
 
tracers

they usually go for one or two bones a pop at gun shows. And theres no guarantee there going to glow after that many years.
 
tracer ammunition will have a G in the headstamp
AA PSA or Pomeroy ammunition on MkII pomeroy .303 ammo (1914-18)
B Buckingham incendiary, (later extended to all incendiary)
C Cordite propellant
D Drill (from 1928)
E Smoke discharger cartridge
F Semi Armour piercing
G Tracer
H Grenade discharger cartridge (from 1928)
K Brock incendiary (1914-18 only)
L Blank (from 1928)
O observation ammunition (from 1928)
P armour piercing early 1914-18
P practice ammunition (from 1928)
Q proof
R explosive
RC reduced charge 1914-18
S armour piercing early 1914-18
T Tracer "Sparklet" 1914-18
U inspectors dummy (from 1928)
W armour piercing
X Steel, special machine gun dummy cartridges (pre 1914)
Z Nitrocellulose propellant from 1916



Good info there John.
I have seen most, but not all of that list. Thanks for filling in the gaps.
 
Colours

bullet tip colour
Blue: on some marks of incendiary ammunition
White: Air to air short range day tracer
Grey: Air to Air short range night tracer
Black: Observation bullet
Ordnance board Proceedings of 1941 show that day and night short range tracers were identified by an orange/yellow tip but this seems to have been little used if at all.

Primer annulus colour code

1914-18
Black; Ball MkVII and 7z(changed to purple, 3rd Sept 1918
Blue; Incendiary
orange: Explosive
Green; armour piercing
red; Tracer

Finaly near the end of the .303, the primer annulus was
Purple: Ball or practice ball
Blue: Incendiary
Black; observing
Black: Explosive
Green: Armour piercing
Red: Tracer
Yellow: Proof
Yellow: Standard

Now if you really want to have fun, Cartridges were not always loaded where the cases were made. If you cut the case open a little above the rim, you can see a code between the flash holes.
^ Royal laboratory Woolwich (a broad arrow)
B, ROF Blackpoole
H, ROF Hirwuan
R, ROF Radway Green
S, ROF Spennymoor
C, Crompton Parkinson, Doncaster
P, Crompton Parkinson, Guisley
L, Greenwood and Batley
K, ICI Ltd. Witton
2, ICI Ltd. Standish
4, ICI Ltd. Yealing
5, ICI Ltd. Kidderminster

Last of all, colouration of the cartridge case
Coloured bands painted on the case walls were employed in two instances, one being with the reduced chargerMk7z ball cartridge approved for training purposes in 1918, the other with the practice tracer PG Mark 1 of 1945. In both instances the band was blue in colour.

High pressure proof cartridges in .303 calibre were "stained red" from 1905, this in practice meaning that thecases were copper washed. This practice remained standard from that date onwards.

Drill cartridges had a need to be easily distinguished from ball, as did inspectors dummies. Identification with most of the drill series and all of the inspectors dummy series included either tinning or chrome plating of the cartridge case ir the making the case from a white metal or steel. Drill cartridges, in addition often had the empty cap chamber and any flutes painted red.

Blackening, partial or complete, of the cartridge case was used in a number of different categories of .303 inch cartridge.
1. short range practice ball (upper portion of case blackened)
2. Grenade cartridges (most having cases either fully or half blackened or cases with black rings.
3. Blank, cordite, Mk6. this cartriudge had the case and mock bullet blackened
4. some match ammunition
5. It is believed that some ammunition required for Naval boat service had the cases blackened, presumably to defeat salt water corrosion
 
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