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Don't know squat about my AR-15s big brother. For those of you in the know, if one was looking for a decent heavy barrel AR-15 in .308 to use for designated marksman competitions, who makes something decent without being insanely expensive? Hoping to stay under or around $2k (if possible) Much as I'd like a Knights for instance, my soon to be wife would murder me.
 
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Under 2K??? Not going to happen.
Call Wolverine Supplies on Monday. They deal Armalite, DPMS and Bushmaster. The can source you something or put one together for you.
I managed to get a good deal a little while back on an AR-10.....but that was with a used Lower, and it still hit 2K.

You want a DMR Specific .308 Rifle..... over 2K for sure. Wolverine has a DPMS SASS in stock.
 
R-25 from Remington
As good and cheap as it get's.
Happy Easter!
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http://triggersandbows.com/remington/remington-r25-vtr-predator-restricted
 
I'm a big fan of the AR-10 :D
Look up AR-10 rather than AR-15 for the .308/7.62mm version. :D
The purists will state that only Armalite and KAC depending on who you talk to are true AR10s. But generically all of the .308/7.62 AR rifles are referred to as AR10s.

You have a number of options. But your 2K price cap limits those.
Questar is a good place to look. Wolverine is also another good place to check.

For price/performance the DPMS LR-308 is hard to beat. But... you'll need to put in a match trigger. The stock one blows. Unfortunately you missed the one at Questar by a couple months. They are sold out right now.

The Remington R-25 is a camo DPMS with a lighter barrel. It's your cheapest overall. That being said if you can find the DPMS LR-308 it's probably worth it to get that one instead.

Rock River Arms LAR-8. I know Questar sells them. When I was buying mine, this wasn't an option. There was also a very bad history associated with the design of this rifle (FAL mags in AR10 don't work too well). Bushmaster bought the design, couldn't get it to work and RRA took the project back. I believe they have sorted out the issues now though (It took them ages to get this working). Do your research on this one before buying.

The RRA rifle has a 26" barrel instead of the 24" of the DPMS. Which might work well for you. Both are 1:10 twist . The RRA comes with their two stage match trigger, which is the same one I put in my DPMS (Will cost just under $200 to buy and then you have to install it). If you wanted a Kel-Tec RFB later on, your RRA mags should be compatible (use metric ones).

Armalite is pretty much impossible to get now unless you get one second hand. Their target models are comparable to DPMS but at 3K. Generally I'd dismiss the Armalite target model due to the cost and magazine. Although the Canadian military model rocks. Also there are some very nice put together rifles out there which I think are nicer than the target model. The Armalite rifles also use modified M14 mags.

Keep in mind most of the parts on these rifles aren't interchangeable like the AR-15. Other than triggers, pistol grips and stocks they have their own uppers/lowers and mags. Some use the same mags such as the SR-25 (KAC), the DPMS and a few others. These mags are based off the original AR-10 mags and personally I think they're the best ones. RRA uses FAL mags, Armalite uses their own modified M14 mags.

DPMS LR-308 24" 1:10 twist barrel. It's stock except for the RRA NM trigger.

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An AR-10 or basically a .308 AR for under $2K or under is going to be hard to find. Anything between $3K-$5 is the norm.

I wouldn't bother with Questar as their stuff is expensive and high-end (don't get me wrong they have excellent product but for a price). You're basically forced to look at Wolverine supplies.
 
What you are asking about is pretty much what I bought a couple of years back. It is an Armalite AR10 lower with a 2 stage trigger, PRS stock, with a super heavy profile 21" barrel, free floated with a continuous rail.

I might sell it shortly for around $3500 with 4 mags. (Scope and rings not included)
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AR10's are not cheap. You might get lucky and piece one together for $2500, but I doubt it will be "marksman" grade.
 
EDX2308 said:
An AR-10 or basically a .308 AR for under $2K or under is going to be hard to find. Anything between $3K-$5 is the norm.

I wouldn't bother with Questar as their stuff is expensive and high-end (don't get me wrong they have excellent product but for a price). You're basically forced to look at Wolverine supplies.
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Questar also sells the DPMS and the LAR-8. Both are under 2K.
The DPMS will shoot with the expensive stuff. I suspect the LAR-8 will as well.
 
Miraclejoe said:
What you are asking about is pretty much what I bought a couple of years back. It is an Armalite AR10 lower with a 2 stage trigger, PRS stock, with a super heavy profile 21" barrel, free floated with a continuous rail.
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Nice rifle!!
 
"...only Armalite and KAC depending on who you talk to are true AR10s..." Civilian copies just like the M1A.
"...around $2k..." Stateside, but not here.
 
For "around" $2000, this seems like your only viable option. Any other brands are gonna be $3000+...

You can change some common parts (stock, grip, etc), and re-coat the upper/lower/shroud to lose the camo.

Satain said:
Remington R-25

As "good & cheap" as it get's.

Happy Easter! ;)
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I don't think you can get an Armalite Ar10 anymore. Wolverine can get stripped uppers but not barrels or lowers. Everything is LE only and all armalite barrels are marked 7.62 and they will not export them. You can scrounge for parts and do a build, but the lower will be the hardest to find. I know a stripped upper is about $500. I made my own lower from scratch and wolverine had a good deal on uppers a couple of years ago, but they are long gone. One thing I will say, my AR 10 is by far my favorite gun. I shoot it more than my ar15 and my 2 m14's combined. I am now sourcing parts to build a carbine upper. Shooting 308 isn't for the faint of heart. Seeing the bill for 308 components every week (and believe me if you shoot it a lot you absolutely have to reload) will make you take out a new mortgage.
 
A 308 MWS is well built and accurate beyond my shooting skill, it also allows for barrel changes in less then a minute with 16"and 18" avaiable not to sure about 20" I'm sure its out there. Love it but not going to find it for any less then 3500
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Since this pic I changes out the UBR for a ACS, works a lot better for me
 
Miraclejoe said:
And I forgot to mention that the upper is all Noveske.

ETA: and so are yours. Wasn't one a Morpheus32 rifle before?
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That upper looks good.

Nope that wasn't Morpheus32's. It was one of the test rifles though. I bought it from Wolverine with the new lower a number of years ago. Right time, right place.
 
Epoxy7 said:
That upper looks good.
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Oh man, you have no idea. Just as stated above by dogzilla, my Franken10 really makes me happy.There is something about that platform...

The only reason I want to sell it is because I am splurging on an SR25 EMC and see no reason for the duplication. I drank the KAC cool-aid, sigh.
 
You won't be able to buy one under $2, 000.00 but you could build one for just under that.

This includes DPMS lower kit, Magpul SPR stock, Chip MCormick target trigger, DPMS receiver, DPMS SS SASS barrel. Scope and bipod were extra although I rarely use the bipod when shooting for groups. Best group to date was .880 inches, 5 shots, at 200 m. I hope to seriously group it at 500 m this spring. It will hit the gong at 500 m all day but I haven't grouped it on paper. It loves 155 gr. AMax bullets shot from Hornady match cases. I am also developing some loads using the Berger 155.5 gr. bullets which show some good promise. It was an interesting build, saved me a lot of money, and shoots as good as the DPMS SASS for less.

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