308 how far is to far

They shoot .308 at Bisley in Match Rifle events out to 1200 yards. They only need to penetrate a paper target with a canvas backer. Not sure if they use the 22 inch bullseye for match rifle all the way to 1200.
 
A .308 will do a thousand yards, the big question is what are your abilities in the field for dopeing wind, rangeing, knowing the drop of your bullets and the performance of your rifle, and how consistant are your marksmanship skills. Would I use a .308 on a moose at 1000yrds......no, would I use a .308 on a coyote or wolf at 1000yrds yep!!, if all conditions are right and I am 100% confident of a kill shot. It's alot of variables to calculate and KNOW!! before you pull the trigger. If you keep this in mind, a .308 will do the job on soft skinned varmint animals @ 1000 yrds with the right ammo rifle combination. The most important is if in doubt, don't send the shot out!!

Just an Opinion.
 
Too far for what? I have shot targets at 1200 yards. Hit the bull a few times, too.

The tasrget is 8' high and 10' wide. Bull is 22 ". Unless wind is really bad, expect first shot to be on paper.

Power at that range exceeds a 38 Spl at 10 feet.

Would not hunt at that range for fear of a wounding shot.

I hunt with a 308 and consider maximum hunting range under real good conditions to be about 400 yards.
 
Read a book the other day. The guy was shooting a .308 Improved and he was shooting 3120 yards yep thats 3120. If you don't belive it is was in Precision Shooting a 1000 yards and aslo in Tactical Shooter Mag. I don't belive he was getting really gook accuracy but he hit a 16" gong at that distance. The rifle was sick looking too, really high mounts and a angled Scope.
 
"what kind of game can .308 kill at 200-300?"

I was hunting moose with a friend carrying a 308 (Win 88 with open sights). I had a Win 358. We were in thick bush and expected to shoot moose at 25 to 50 yards. As we crossed a logging cut, we saw a moose walking across the cut at the far end. We were alter able to determine the distance was 425 yards.

I am an experienced shooter - he is an experienced hunter, but had never shot at a target beyond 100 yards. I shouted "Aim high!" We both fired 4 shots as the moose walked leisurly accros the cut, turned around and then walked back the way he had come from.

Becasue of mud and slash on the cut over, it took awhile to make it to where the moose had crossed. We were both surprised to find a dead moose.

It had been shot through the lungs twice. One shot from each side. I had aimed about 3 feet above its back and the assumption was that it was me that had done the deed. We could not find any of the bullets.

When I got home and checked the 358 bullet drop at 425 yards I became suspicious that unless my bullet bounced into the moose, it was not me that hit it.

later the butcher gave my buddy a recovered bullet. It was a 180 gr 308 bullet.

It was almost unmarked, except for rifling marks and a small dent on one side of the pointed lead nose.

My take on this is that becasue we were so far away the moose did not spook when we fired and even when he got hit. He laid down and bled out from the lung shots.

The total lack of tissue damage and bullet expansion at 400 yards leads me to say that although under the right circumstances one can hit a big animal, the sporting maximum distance is more like 300 yards.

Mario shot the moose from the standing position. He "Aimed high" but does not recall exactly how high. whatever it was, it was just right.

I have often hunted from a seated position over a log or big rock and could easily make an accurate shot at 400, maybe even 500 yards, but I don't regard the 308 Win as having enough power. Not only should a sportsman look for a clean kill, anyone who has ever dragged a moose out of the bush knows that the last thing you want is the moose to run out of the clearing into the deep bush.

I have other rifles more suitable if I was planning such a shot - say my 300 Win Mag or my 7 Rem mag.

This is why I suggest 200 to 300 is about max for the 308 Win.
 
This last spring at Summerland, C4PYRO and I shot at a rock 1500yds away and landed bullets within a12" vertically and about 18" horizonally. We both were shooting 175gr SMKs with 21.750" Rock Creek bbls and running Nightforce optics. We figured out with a ballistic program later that the bullet was doing aprox 895fps and the energy was a joke.

As for shooting an animal at 400+yds, my gun is 11MOA over 100yd zero and I'd probably shoot it in the neck. I have no doubts that my bullet groups at that distance are going to be roughly 2" and I'm certain a 175gr bullet would take down a moose. It's all about shot placement.

I don't believe in hale marie shots at big game anymore. Use the right equipment to do the job or let is live to see another day.
 
hey Glock

:sniper:Hey if your .308 was a joke what was my .22-250AI at 1123 yrds???? Ready for the funny farm ha ha........

Yer right, not much energy left at 1500....... but sure was impressive with the groupings......

Really impressive at the 20lb old propane cylinder at what was it 1150 yrds or so!!


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GANDERITE said:
I am an experienced shooter - he is an experienced hunter, but had never shot at a target beyond 100 yards. I shouted "Aim high!"

I had aimed about 3 feet above its back and the assumption was that it was me that had done the deed.

Mario shot the moose from the standing position. He "Aimed high" but does not recall exactly how high. whatever it was, it was just right.

Not only should a sportsman look for a clean kill, anyone who has ever dragged a moose out of the bush knows that the last thing you want is the moose to run out of the clearing into the deep bush.
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Am I the only one who think that 'hail mary-ing' in bullets like this isn't taking your own advice???
Practice, know your dope and plan the shot. Don't bang away at an animal and give the anti's something to talk about! :slap:
 
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