308 win
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Sounds like you lost the front 1/4s to making hambger too much damage the 308 will do the same thing and you don't lost the front 1/4s to the grinding machine [blood shot] my dad and i have hunted with guys who also like the 300 mag we have seen first hand the difference average distances at 300 yards the bullet also hit the heart and lungs in a less damaging way.Full penetration and expansion with a corlock remmy bullet.
I think the 308 is just about the perfect whitetail cartridge out to any sort of sane distance. I shot a Muledeer at 350 yards with my Kimber a few years ago using a 150 gr Btip with no difficulty.
I think the 308 is marginal for moose though, when I think moose I want penetration. I am a fan of Barnes bullets and they like to be driven fast.
If I was hunting moose with a 308, I would use a 150 gr TSX and probably not shoot much past 250-300. This is a 168 gr TSX pulled from a big bodied bull, blew out a rib, the heart and lungs, and broke the off shoulder and stopped under the skin. The distance was about 250 yards from a 300 win mag with muzzle velocity of just under 3200 fps
This one came out of a zebra stallion my son shot, about 800 pounds, same kind of story except 30-06 launched at 2850.
I my opinion, although both died quickly and went down right there, the expansion and performance was better from the 300, tough bullets work best when driven hard, the 308 is only capable of generating enough velocity to ensure moderate expansion as it slows down.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
No its a custom rig that I dumped an obscene amount of money into but only use occasionally. When I do get around to using it, it tends to put a smile on my face and I remember then why I had it built, but then I go back to shooting my sporters.
Maybe I should pull the trigger harder?I poured the coal to my 24" Cooper until the bolt was getting sticky with all the classic 30-06 go-fast powders. A surpriseing amount of those wouldn't make close to 2700 fps with 165s. 150s scooted right along though.
Hmm, that is odd. Mine wasn't pushed too hard, usually would get 20 or more firings out of the brass.
Hmm, that is odd. Mine wasn't pushed too hard, usually would get 20 or more firings out of the brass.
I think mine hates me; same with my .308s.
Is this the one that blew up?
This my custom .308 Win rig.
Buck jumped out in front of me at 40'ish yards. 165gr Hdy IL and 42grs Varget.
Not really, but there is a pile of meat on a moose anyway.
An X-bullet doesn't do the kind of damage a more frangible bullet like a corelokt does.
My point was with an animal as big as a moose I want two reasonably sized holes...just my opinion.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
This my custom .308 Win rig.
Buck jumped out in front of me at 40'ish yards. 165gr Hdy IL and 42grs Varget.
None the less, its a combination that'll work for most situations. I still kinda like that 165 gr Hornady.
Uh-huh.
Yeah, that was a sad one. I think about that sort of thing when guys get much more velocity out of a caliber than I do. Keeps me on the straight and narrow, and usually looking at larger case options.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
The good news is the rifle was salvageable. Switching to a cartridge with more powder volume is the correct answer, in fact I'll go as far as saying that if you are loading compressed rounds, the cartridge is too small for that volume of powder with that burning rate.
But velocity is effected by where we live too. If a guy out on the west coast shooting in warm temperatures ant high elevation, and high humidity, the guy shooting in a location thats low, dry and cold can't compete. I've concluded that's why Gate's .375 Ruger velocities have been higher than mine.
There can be a difference in readings between chronographs too. I've recorded as much as 100 fps difference between my Chrony Beta and my Oehler P-35 when they're set up in tandem for the same shot. If you have a "slow" chronograph you'll never match what the guy with a "fast" one believes he's doing, at least not without pulling pieces of steel out of your whiskers.
But velocity is effected by where we live too. If a guy out on the west coast shooting in warm temperatures ant high elevation, and high humidity, the guy shooting in a location thats low, dry and cold can't compete. I've concluded that's why Gate's .375 Ruger velocities have been higher than mine.
There can be a difference in readings between chronographs too. I've recorded as much as 100 fps difference between my Chrony Beta and my Oehler P-35 when they're set up in tandem for the same shot. If you have a "slow" chronograph you'll never match what the guy with a "fast" one believes he's doing, at least not without pulling pieces of steel out of your whiskers.
Awhile back there was three of us with various chronys that would compare notes. One was consistantly 100 fps faster than mine, another 100 fps slower. Mine mostly matched the drop charts, when it worked at all which was a sometimes thing.
We're haveing much better luck with the CEDs.
When we Saskatchewan folk get a faceful of steel splinters we just chew 'em up and spit out nails, bolts and small parts.
We're haveing much better luck with the CEDs.
When we Saskatchewan folk get a faceful of steel splinters we just chew 'em up and spit out nails, bolts and small parts.
No problem i was just thinking of guys that hunted with us that had 300 mags and the damage when they got a moose.
Are these the ones your talking about i was thinking of trying them but they aren't cheap?$45 for 50.
Are these the ones your talking about i was thinking of trying them but they aren't cheap?$45 for 50.
