32 Gauge Pinfire
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vagrantviking
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Very pretty double gun.
Too bad that's going to be so difficult to load for.
Too bad that's going to be so difficult to load for.
I've a Lady friend who wants it for a wall hanger. The obscurity works in her favor that way...non-gun. It's her son who is the LEO I'm going to need to placate
fat tony
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You could make it into a teat fire variant kind of like 84mm. That would be even more of a pita than pinfire. Then get something from Loyalist arms for your ladyfriend. I would like to see the full chart for the British 'bore' system I have not see it anywhere online.
I think if I was to go down that road... I would tap a retired machinist for a favor and just make several brass pinfire cartridges. I see no sense to alter such a beautiful weapon. And you cannot see it in the pictures but the backstock was snapped cleanly off
A very nice repair job but a repair job none the less.
vagrantviking
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_(firearms) Look under conversion guide.
32 gauge works out to about .520". I got some magtech brass centerfire 32ga to cut and size down for a 50army rolling block pistol.
fat tony
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There are a lot more bore sizes than that in the British system. I guess it is just based on algebraic equations, known density of pure lead, & the volume of a sphere calculations. Knowing the Brits they have thrown in some archaic twist as well.
One source of pi fire cartridges is Henry Krank;;
https://www.henrykrank.com/reloading/cases-primers/shotgun-pinfire-cases.html
Books;
http://www.hlebooks.com/pinfire/cal16-01.htm
Conversion to using percussion cartridges;
https://freemycollection.com/?p=305...issue-6-auxiliary-pinfire-percussion-adapters
https://www.henrykrank.com/reloading/cases-primers/shotgun-pinfire-cases.html
Books;
http://www.hlebooks.com/pinfire/cal16-01.htm
Conversion to using percussion cartridges;
https://freemycollection.com/?p=305...issue-6-auxiliary-pinfire-percussion-adapters
I can't remember; was the gun a shotgun or a rifle, possibly oval bored ? Also; pinfires can be shot; the photo below is a Danish 16 guage shotgun. Of note is that the hammers on many pinfires are fairly light and if so, I think the recess for the cap needs to be flat bottomed in order for the cap to go off. Also the pins should be copper or brass to prevent damaging the hammers and the locks. In my opinion re changing to a teat fire; in addition to buggering up a beautiful gun, teat fire shells are one of the few that are beyond my ability to make and load for.
fat tony
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Fifteen mm pinfire. That would make for a very nice howdah pistola. Teatfire I guess the closest would be like 84mm perpendicular to the bore axis. Decapping could be hydraulic. It would be a lot of work for not much gain like the forward ignition duplex loads of yore. Teatfire was entirely self contained right?
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the cartridge below is a loaded test fire cartridge. That little projection on the right hand side is the primer and it more or less escapes me how you would ever duplicate it. I also think that with anything more than a very light charge, it would spray out the back
cheers mooncoon
fat tony
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L.l I got it wrong. I was thinking of a bizarre egg shaped cartridge - .58 Schubarth. This was pinfire but self contained. Still not quite what I had in mind. Not sure if what I am thinking of even exists other than 84mm recoilless, and its antecedent, 20mm recoilless.
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Brassman66
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Thank you for your contribution absolutely impressive and very interesting.
While I don't have a pinhole Gun I remember having one original Pinhole Shell (probably for a Handgun) somewhere in my Cartridge collection.
Cheers
Thank you greatly for all the input, guys...it is greatly appreciated.
My son is a pipe fitter at the local plant...union show. There are some old machinist's there that love a challenge ( and a bottle of rum), one will be quizzed about making pinfire 32 ga. My son already has had sub-caliber inserts made to fire 32-20 in a Martini-Enfield 303 BR...let's really challenge him, is what I say!
My son is a pipe fitter at the local plant...union show. There are some old machinist's there that love a challenge ( and a bottle of rum), one will be quizzed about making pinfire 32 ga. My son already has had sub-caliber inserts made to fire 32-20 in a Martini-Enfield 303 BR...let's really challenge him, is what I say!
fat tony
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I just wanted to ask. Since theoretically burning gases can escape around the circumference of the pin, then this is not entirely self contained. Do gases escape in this fashion when a pinfire round is fired? Thanks.
I have never noticed gasses escaping from the top of the gun where the notch for the pin is. Possibly may be some escape but not enough to be a concern. What is a problem is that the hammers strike the pin at the top center of the barrel and they significantly limit your peripheral vision of the target. On ordinary percussion and hammer cartridge guns the hammers are much to the side and do not interfere with your vision
cheers mooncoon
vagrantviking
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Magtech makes 32ga brass shotgun shells. They might be a good starting point for making some rounds.
